Earlier this week, we published a preview of a new twist on raid loot that’s coming to Season of Discovery in phase 6.
Just now, we updated that preview to provide a great deal more clarity on how bonus loot will work. Please find that update here:
You certainly have a player-base made of professional whiners getting all stressed-out for nothing but clearly you need to work on your communication. SoD’s quality has been dropping a lot lately. It really feels like you’ve abandonned it.
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Why do you guys put retail stuff in classic
“many of these additional rewards will also be cosmetic in nature.”
When are you going to learn that we want STRONGER items for beating more challenging content?
I wouldnt be surprised if this is just as easy as the previous raids. So far you have failed to deliver challenging content and you havent rewarded stronger items which has been the case for ALL wow content but SoD.
I sadly dont have any high hopes for P6. People may think that it will be difficult to get these bonus chests but i guarantee you it wont be.
Another point i would like to add is how you also ruined ZG by making it so easy, its just tank and spank, there is ZERO challenge. You just wasted a whole raid on nothing and on top of that force people to grind to exalted which was the stupidest thing you could ever do when everything is so easy already. This prevents you from trying out certain speccs on different chars. Its also not alt friendly whatsoever.
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You want better gear from challenging content, dont speak for others.
Thats how ZG have always been though they didnt change how it works at all so no they didnt make it easy it was easy they didnt make it so you have to hit exalted it already was like that.
I speak for the people I raid with who share the same opinion as me, which is quite a lot of people. Thats why you see people stop playing after the first weeks becuase there is no challenge.
They should had adapted the raid to SoD standards. The exalted thing should had been removed. Since BWL is so easy already and you get free items, you wont bother getting exalted and even if you do get exalted with 1 char, are you gonna do it with your other alts? No.
Thats why im pointing it out. It doesnt matter how it was in classic, this ISNT classic, this is SoD and it content needs to be adjusted accordingly.
You can probably speak for your friends but using “WE” implies more than just speaking for them (atleast from how you are writing), providing better gear from more challenging content wont make a diffrence to if there is a challenge or not the only thing it would do is to make it so that the challenge gets easier quicker than if everyone gets the same gear. Better gear means that you can brute force more things.
Getting to exalted is easy though just like it was in vanilla, if you really want to hit exalted you can do it in one reset by doing rep runs if you want to take it slow its a few weeks of runs. I will soon be exalted on both my main and the one alt I actually care about. So yes I will get it on my only alt that is level 60.
Sorry to break it to you this is still classic, SoD is just a slightly updated version of classic not something complety new. The one thing they could do without breaking things in era would be to introduce a second way to get the rep they cant change when you get the rewards as era and SoD share a code base. (And also no spec is hidden at all behind a shoulder enchant)
This isn’t something from retail.
That made people cry. ‘Reeee me too bad to do hardest content so me gear suck’.
…ZG was always that easy.
Ok lets put it this way, you are the type of person that all you do on this forum is try to argue with people. It doesnt matter what topic it is, you just like to argue and take opposite sides. You are that negative and it wouldnt surprise me if you have deeper issues irl.
The differense between you and me is that I want the game to be adapted to everyone, meaning it doesnt matter if you like it easy or difficult, you can easily adjust it to whatever you prefer. This type of thinking means everyone gets to enjoy the game the way they want. You on the other hand do no not want this, you are clearly argueing against it and whats funny is that most likely you dont even play the much, you spend your time argueing instead for no reason other than to just argue, you are that toxic.
SoD content circles around raiding, If you ask the top 200 guilds, majority of all of the raiders there will tell you that the content is just way to easy. I can guarantee you that if you ask the same question to the top 500 guilds, most of them will say the same.
Since you dont seem to raid I will explain something to you, raiders enjoy being rewarded for completing raids, beating bosses, the harder the boss, the better the reward feels IF the reward/item is stronger. This also means that more people will aim to beat the harder content, Some will beat it in the start and some will do it gradually while they get better gear but they will keep fighting for it because there is a reward for it.
Right now there is ZERO incentive to do black trial and let me add to that, the difficulty itself is a joke, its not even difficult.
What I am advocating for is to have a real challenging mode for the people who want it which is ALOT of people. The easy and middle difficulty levels will still be there, nothing changes other than there will be more hardcore content for us who actually enjoy the hardcore challenge with stronger rewards.
In other words, everyone get to play the way the want. This is nothing new in wow.
Again you are just argueing to argue and dont actually know what you are talking about. To spend 2 full days farming rep on 1 char on a game where you clear the hardest raiding content within 1 hour. That is not the way its supposed to be. Having more alts means you need to farm even more which is simply not worth to spend that much time. If Im gonna take you word you have only gotten exalted on one char. Phase 5 is over long ago, we got phase 6 PTR on friday. Just now you are getting exalted with an alt, it shouldnt take this long in SoD. its Seasonal, it should go much faster OR BWL needs to be much more difficult so that its worth spending time farming ZG gear/rep in order to beat BWL which it isnt.
Again you are talking garbage, even if we have the classic/vanilla version, its another game itself another “expansion” or whatever you want to call it. We have tanks above 10k hp, massive DPS, spells/runes from other expansions that have been added to this version.
So no this is not classic or vanilla, this is SoD. Yes base code is same but adjusting the parameters isnt the same as creating new code. They can adjust the parameters without any problems.
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Yeah I know but since the game circles around raiding, then I would hope they would introduce this type of content so that everyone can get to play the game the way they want. No one is stopping these nabbs from spending more time learning the game but they just want to get everything handed to them without any challenge, they are not gamers.
I know mate, but since they have adjusted all raiding content they could had done way more improvements in ZG at least on hardmode. Imagine having a proper hardmode content in BWL and one in ZG. We all get to enjoy the game more. It would actually be worth doing ZG, atm its not and farming rep to exalted? FML hell no
You know you are talking to trolls?
They are so afraid to show their sod mains with grey parses that they’re posting from their twinks. Dont waste your time for that trash.
Normal people already understood that healthy game delivers good and enjoying experience for everyone - casual dads and elitists. These two groups cannot exist without each other, otherwise the game will die.
Only this trolls (who i assume never did black bwl or mc h3) can bring some weird arguments about beeng elitists, hiding their mains and posting from even not level capped twinks.
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You want better gear from doing the same content on a higher difficulty, I want the gear to be the same no matter if you do it on the easy mode or hard more, im more than fine with cosmetic differences and with doing it on a harder mode awarding more loot, giving better loot to the people who can already clear the hardest content easily just creates a bigger delta between the really good players and the rest of the playerbase, only reason I can see for wanting better loot instead of cosmetic differences is to be able to lord it over people. Im not even close to toxic havent called you any name or anything or implied that you have mental issues.
And SoD was designed for whom exactly? The hardcore raiders or the more casual crowd? The design have spoken for it self here.
Gear is already a reward for raiding, unique cosmetic gear is a reward for doing harder content. And also if you dont raid for the fun of raiding then why raid at all (yes getting gear is also a part of the fun but its not everything).
What you are advocating for is to split the once who can do the hard mode from the once that cant, you have that in cata and in retail why not let them experiment and see how well it actually works out in SoD from what it looks like for me SoD is not actively bleeding players anymore so this strategy do seem to work actually.
Having more alts always means you need to spend more time to get things on all of them, rep and clearing content is not the same thing. I didnt even have my one alt at 60 at the start of this phase think I hit 60 with it 2 weeks ago, Im the kind of person who mostly just plays their main and not much else but I decied to get my rogue up to 60 for no real reason. How is phase 5 over if the PTR for phase 6 comes out on friday?.
ZG was always a catch up raid though its supposed to give gear at around the level of MC gear, its still the same as it always was.
You can add things easily without breaking a code you cant change things without risking massive breaks in the code. The code base being shared is what have lead to really odd stuff over on era when things have been changed in SoD.
Fix the pets!!!