PI is bad and it's NOT a community issue

PI is not interesting. PI is used on the same specs 99.9% of the time and it’s because that’s the most optimal way to use it. So PI it’s no a community issue. It’s a design issue. If PI was designed to be equally beneficial for all specs then it would be a different story. But it’s not. PI strongly favors certain specs so of course players are going to use it accordingly. IT’S NOT INTERESTING.

And almost no players actually like PI:

  • Priests don’t like giving their CD away and having to deal with PI drama.
  • The specs getting PI don’t like it because they know their performance is based on an external buff and they just start to feel crippled without it.
  • The specs not getting PI don’t like it because they cannot compete with the spec getting it.

Lately Blizzard have been great at listening to players and implementing good changes. But PI is an example of Blizzard still prioritize their own creative proudness as game desingers over the user experience of the players.

The feedback is clear: PI is not a good addition to the game. Players don’t like it. It’s not interesting and it just causes negative experiences.

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Pi??
/10 chars

Also: Who cares about PI outside of some dps wh… and people going for the most min maxing. So yes, its mainly a community issue.

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I think it become a personal cooldown, seen far to many priests get harassed over a silly squabble between dps.

We care about it when blizzard is nerfing other classes because of PI. Apperently (By Kalazami) demolock just got a nerf because of the existence of PI.

I do not care at all about PI. It sounded like something fun to coordinate with another player to burn something fast down, or do a ton of aoe damage. But blizzard seems to care. Those nerfs are really awesome for demolocks who do not have a priest available. Well done blizzard :man_facepalming:

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at first it was fun now its an anoyance

Demolock also being one of the highest dps in the game. Oh nooooes. That 12% instead of 15% life consumption on their commander will catapult them into the void of uselessness.

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It is apparently the highest because of PI. Otherwise it was not. I have to say; i got this from the lock community, so it is maybe a bit biased . And why do you come with those weird statements of "uselessness’?

“maybe”.

Because its always the same with the people crying over it. The nerf is absolutely meaningless but they make it out to be the end of the world. The only community that tops that off is the bloody moonkin community. That community is the very definition of the “REE kid”

I am playing for whole SL with a demolock (and a survival hunter), even when it was apparently the bottom of everything. Don’t come with those things to me. Whatever. You are the kid here.

Aparently we are not allowed to say something negative here anymore or it is crying. pfft

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Im coming with those things at the warlock community. And last sentence is aimed at the moonkin community who would cry even over a 0.01% nerf.

tbh, I alt a Priest, I tend to forget about it most of the time and definitely have no clue who needs it the most.

Luckily I don’t push any high end content.

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If you look at this Kalazami video (only the minutes of the why).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poSYGoWFLlw

You see he is checking the logs where he is showing basically all classes without PI are having a higher dps with the highest log of demo without PI. Maybe it is biased but apparently warcraftlogs is agreeing.

I’ve watched the entire video now actually and he pretty much confirms everything i say and i agree with him. The nerf isnt the end of the world. Even compared to destro (which he also pointed out that his sims may be off and favour demo more) or all other specs. He also states that from what he has seen that demo is still the most favoured PI target and is only potentially challenged by fire.

He also more or less states that this was bound to happen given how strong Demo was pre nerf. The same fate that happened to fury before and the same fate that will most likely meet enhancement. Or Assa rogues on PTR (however we expected the nerfs to come the moment they announced the tier in its original state) deserving an utter beating.

I agree with him that PI in its design is trash and needs to get removed or made priest only. But the people make it, once again, way more dramatic than it actually is.

It’s not the ability’s fault that some specs scale better off it than others. At the end of the day the goal is to kill your targets as soon as possible.

Nobody was making a drama out of it. You were the one starting the drama in this topic :grimacing:

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You brought demo locks into this. Could have very well kept talking about general design of the ability and the future removal of it or the instant removal of it now and then covering all classes that benefit from it as to not disturb the current tier (which is way too much work now that the tier is live). Then im all in for it.

Demo locks were already “gimped” (emphasize on the quotation marks) even before the nerfs if you didnt have PI in the group. The nerf overall being meaningless still.

Oh no, i am giving an example! The world is ending!

(See, that is how dramatic you responded. Pfft)

Wut?

When I play priest I just check who is doing top damage and give PI to them.

If someone complains about my choice of PI target, I just tell them to do more damage.

On one side they are trying to TUNE the game and not create a big different between classes
on the other they put into game PI and buffs that DH and MONK provide
meanwhile they scraped druid buff paladin buffs i think DEMONs buff from warlock?
and many more things over TIME with weird REASONS
But mage have intelect priest stamina + PI
it’s CRINGE i’m not fan of this