hi guys. seems like blizz gonna do nothing about pi problem. so lets fix our game. we can solve this. tweet it to warcraftlogs devs. They did it on classic about world buff issue. we need seperate logs. if someone got pi, logs need to calculate it with " only pi " group.
warcraftlogs devs. please solve this. make pi only and without pi logs seperate.
whats pi problem ? pi very nice skill but only when its on you. its huge dps boost. But its hard to get if you dont have a priest gf.
Coincidently enough tomorrow is Pi-Day
So what’s the problem exactly? Stop being so egocentrical?
Wcl has a icon if the player received pi or innervate.
Sounds more like a you problem cause there are many other effects that aren’t taken into consideration by warcraftlogs (DH and Monk passives, consumables, etc. (they are shown but no seperate logs)).
I dont think its too huge of a deal when you can easily land in 85+ parses if you do well enough, and only looking at your logs - in my eyes - confirms that you have 0 clue about teamwork in raids
Nope its not, i know you feel entitled to whine about it but that is not your problem.
You can pretty much see top tier people in every spec being top without any PI used on them.
Now you, want to whine yes you are not the first but that doesnt mean you are right.
Take a look here: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/26#metric=dps&class=Mage&boss=0®ion=-1&spec=Fire
Most of them have no PI used on them unless they found a way to make it “hide” from warcraftlogs.
Imagine being that guy in logs that has 11 PI casts on him and the guy right above him has 0… Now the dude with the 0 is the real bad@$$, not the one with the 11
Link above shows 99 parses without it.
They just wanna whine, their problem is its not being used on them. As you stated people have 0 clue what teamwork is, they just rush to selfish whining over nothing.
Or just stop creating problems that are none.
“Oh no, I can’t be top dps because someone with PI overtook me” … 
As SP I just use it on myself - as the buff is intended to be used; a dps / mana saving tool for priests. No idea why you can give it to others, but hey, that’s easily ignorable.
Mana-saving? It’s a Haste increase, Healers don’t use less mana at high Haste.
Is this LFR protips?
Oh well, so it’s just a hps increase, whatever. I’m only playing SP at the moment, and it had a “costs less mana” aspect when I last used it as a healpriest. 
Still nothing more than small minded statistics whining. 
bro i didnt say pi is the only thing you need if you wanna top parse. i said pi is huge dps boost and yes it is. thoose number 2’s can easly be number 1 with pi.
you know why shadowpriests benched at Wf race ? because they had to pi hunters and dk’s and without pi they do no damage. and they even created their pi lego not bis dps lego and it wasnt enough for damage.
you guys dont know maybe but there’s a pi dps gain chart. its not balanced. and i know blizzard cant balance it and wont balance it since they are very unsuccesful balancing things in shadowlands.
so maybe we can whine to warcraftlogs devs and they maybe change something like they did in classic wow.
It is really useful for healers on specific fights, like Sun King.
Under normal circumstances I always say to keep it to yourself, since it is your buff, but on some fights like the aforementioned fight it can help the raid group out a lot if you coordinate with the healers on when they should get PI. The bulk of the fight there resolves around healers topping out Kael at specific time intervals.
I’m not saying the buff is useless or bad or shouldn’t be used on others if you want to. People coming to the forums to whine about their dps meter getting screwed by it and demanding a change of the ability because of that are just acting… very childish in my opinion. 
I think the issue comes from the way of thinking it brings. I have heard quite a few times that in mid to high levels of raiding it is not uncommon that you have to give up PI, even if you are a shadow priest (this is of course only an issue for shadow.)
It is an ability that is hard to gauge due to how other players cooldowns and fight mechanics work.
Detective Deja on the case.
You’re salty as hell because an aff lock is getting PI and its causing him to do slightly more damage than you sometimes.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CnPKRp769gfXZNh2#fight=14&type=damage-done
You’re the mage. If you check the locks buffs you can see he got 3 PI’s.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CnPKRp769gfXZNh2#fight=14&type=auras&source=16
Conclusion. You’re a self absorbed princess that can’t see whats good for the team.
And edit, maybe if you spent more time cooperating and working as a team you wouldn’t be world 4000. I can’t fathom why people care about logs (to this extent) when you’re still progressing.
You are around number 1million i guess?
Then until reaching 2nd, you have alot of improvement to do in yourself + in your raid’s execution time.
Until there you have 0 reason to whine because its a YOU problem.
There you go, just note that this spreadsheet counts PI OPTIMAL USE which means PI when your dps Cooldowns are up, dont think its a dps increase PER CAST like… Someone did 
You see now the dps increase is nothing, 425 dps for you 
Dont you know warcraft logs added the new collumn that mentions BUFFS ?
That shows you how many PI casts the player had, thats why i linked you the link above so you can see it yourself.
Look again and stop this nonsense whining over nothing. Top 2 mages in generals have 0 PI casts on them, nobody has a PI in sun king
Warcraftlogs Devs have already added a column which shows you if the DPS got PI’ed and how many times and if the healer got Innervate and how many times. Problem solved weeks ago.
Stop spreading misinformation about the reasoning behind Shadow Priests being benched in the WF race. Limit Maximum said it clearly on his streams: Shadow Priest was benched because the class was bad on the last 2 mythic bosses. World first guilds only care about the last 1-3 bosses, so they will focus all their resources in classes that excel on these fights. Shadow priest at the time was providing only single target damage, nothing else, while MM Hunter/Fire Mages/Boomkins/Aff lock provided very good AoE and on-demand Burst damage required to push. It had nothing to do with PI.
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