Don’t give up so fast! They might be convinced if we get them in here.
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Agree on that, the sound design in WoW is… Mediocre at best. Hence I asked around in the UI and Macro subforum if there are any addons for replacing sound effects with custom ones (there are in fact addons for that).
For example, listen to this sound:
https://www.wowhead.com/de/sound=175505/spell-pa-revamp-finalverdict-cast-01
And then listen to the Divine Smite from Baldurs Gate 3…
Also agree on that. I think the first time I have seen a blood puddle in a long time in WoW was during Dragonflight S3 when there was this crappy Marvel battle between Fyrakk and the Champions of Azeroth.
Agreed. It is beyond me how WoW still has no option to reduce other players spell visuals gradually.
I can’t say anything about that, as I live in germany.
Eww, Arena.
That has already been adressed by Blizzard. I think they said on the Blizzcon last year that they want to develop WoWs story faster now.
Personally I would prefer if WoW would go the way with horizontal progression like ESO instead of infinitely inflating and shrinking its gearing system… UNLESS they rebalance all old content to stay relevant too.
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Thank god for that… Literaly the name of the game is World of WarCraft… Not LoveCraft
I was like this before and they reduced the amount to cater to wider audience…
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I have died many times simply for using Shifting Power. I literally am unable to see the swirlie on the ground and consequently get killed.
Never mind the FPS issue. It’s real - there’s no denying it.
It’s just filling your screen with useless garbage while barely communicating the most important attacks at all. It’s bad class design. Very bad - even if top ranked players say otherwise.
The visuals are actively making the game less fun.
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holy moly guys we have a high roller here. lil bro bought 3 games he’s that loaded.
pls share your secret with us. i wish i could spend 150 eur without crying in the corner afterwards.
Sometimes I can’t tell if people are trolling or blizzard trained them so well they don’t even question anything anymore. I spend a lot of money on stupid things all the time, but I still think 13 eur is a lot of money for what wow has to offer. I had to bully you a bit Joolo, sorry 
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This is so true. The only thing missing from Legion PVP was to have a little bit of flexibility when it comes to allocating stats weight. But the fact it scaled everyone to approximately 10-15% difference based on your gear was such an upgrade over any kind of gear system we had in any expansion if you want a fair and easy to get into PVP system.
I also loose any kind of respect for PVP players who claimed gear should matter in PVP.
To be fair, it depend on your priorities. There’s people who buy the last Iphone every year or so, paying 1700$ each year for that. Others have expansive car payments (200-300$ per month resulting in thousands at the end of the year). Since i personally have no crave for those kind of things and prefer spending on books/video games, i don’t care spending 180$ on the new DND edition books or 120$ per year for Wow subs.
Yet i can’t argue with that. If TWW is to be a DF 2.0 (S1-3), there’s really content for2-3months every season plus a little bonus on the expansion launch. It means there is still 3-ish months where our subs isn’t worth keeping active. If they do a large scale event the same way they did with Wow Remix/Plunderstorm in season 4 (one per season on mid-season patch could suffice), then i would argue there’s enough content. We know they work on more of those events, let’s hope they have a solid plan ahead.
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I just wish 10man mythic was a thing so I could play with a smaller team and recruitment wouldnt be so hard maintaining a large roster
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I do that but to be fair I’ve only had one android phone in my life. I’ve had probably most (if not every) iphone model since iphone 4
At least now, with Cross realm Guild + Cross faction Guild, there is two major hurdle to recruitment removed. Yet i’m with you for that. I would much prefer have a roster of 10people in Mythic, but my reason is for the general ambiance. I tend to prefer smaller groups.
I personally have the same Android since 7 years and it was an old model even when i bought it. That’s as much money not spent i can spend in video games without crying in a corner.
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I was making fun of Joolo 
I’m actually fairly good with my money. My whole idea is you spend a lot on things you use a lot and dont buy stupid shiz. So if you spend a lot of time sitting, you should invest in a really good chair. I also have standing desk and small treadmill for my desk. Because of my work I spend a lot of time on my phone so I like having big oled screen and good camera for example. Also the entire apple ecosystem makes everything smooth for me. etc etc.
actually I’ve been buying epic versions of wow every expansion even tho I whine about the game all the time so I had to scratch my previous msg.
Hasn’t the sub price been the same like always?
If Blizzard were to follow the overall world economy, it would be even more expensive.
Now, setting the prices differently from country to country, will most likely just result in the same thing that happens to Netflix, Spotify, YouTube premium etc. etc. people will find ways to pay through that country and save money, further unbalancing the whole point.
They can duel? And if you say “Well not enough people want to duel!” then the problem may be, that people are not interested in 1v1… Participation in 2v2 is already low when SS came out… The balancing in PVP takes ages to get fixed due to ressource allocations, now imagine if they have to start spending ressources on a fancy que system for duelling? The entire PVP space will just be neglected as a whole
But at the same time, you can go into the AH and buy PVP gear for like… 5k total and jump in and farm gear super easy…
Back then it may have made sense, that gear mattered for longer time, but it was also extremely time consuming to farm. Now you can fully gear over a weekend if you really farm, and you’re good to go.
It has really never been easier returning to the game after breaks inbetween seasons, be it pvp or pve…
If they played SL and were fine with it, then I don’t get the critique now. Imagine having S1 gear and coming back in S4… and oh you want better gear? Well to upgrade it, you have to hit a certain CR and uphold it weekly… THAT was a problem
My biggest issue with 13 EUR per month is not that it’s a lot of money… it’s that it does not really have any reason to exist any longer. The subscription model used to be justified with:
- Excellent, industry leading customer support
- No other between-expansions income stream for content
- Paying for server upkeep
But these days, Blizzard also offer various monetised services and products, such as transmogs, mounts, pets, ingame currency. With basically F2P levels of side monetisation and the complete removal of customer service altogether, I don’t think having a monthly subscription fee is really justified any longer. I think a lot of people just pay the fee autoamtically because “It’s always been like that” but never think about why the fee was there in the first place.
With the extra monetisation in place and the lack of customer support the fee should either be scrapped completely or at the very least reduced significantly to around 5 EUR per month. We are paying for the “deluxe” sub model but are only getting the “peasant” free version of the service.
And just to clarify, because I know there will be someone missing the point and making some vapid “oh but it’s so cheap it’s literally for free! What are you, poor?” argument, this is not about the price. It’s about Blizzard charging for a service that is no longer being offered.
They either need to step up that CS and QA game, or lower the sub fee.
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I agree with everything you said but don’t get mistaken. People will still say “haha lmao you cant afford 13 eur loser L”. People just love getting milked by blizzard and they strongly believe in brand loyalty 
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Don’t get this, but hey maybe it’s tha fact that you hear autos less, and not to mention it’s subjective so all fair
Interesting choice of words, not one I would have chosen but hey who knows. The complaint is a genuine issue though, not because I think gore is the way to go, but my issue with it is, if we know the gore isn’t an option then the peaceful choices feel underminded and not optional if that makes sense.
The peaceful choices feel less peacefull and more forced if the option of violence isn’t there. Nakes the story feel sluggish and without meaning.
Can’t relate, I’m a cat and I scratch real good, I personally don’t ave this issue but I know it’s a big issue for more flashy classes, which feels like anyone but me 
I don’t think this is true, simply because of how massive WoW really is, even half of the highest point is still above most competitors, even in it’s weakest state or periods WoW is an nsanely good game. So no I don’t think they’ll cut the cord just yet.
If you want something for fun and unranked may I suggest dueking, also they did attempt to add this to the game in form of a test run I assume in Boralis the duelers guild was literally a 1v1 qeueu, and I don’t think they saw it as a worth while investment.
This is just the live service model of the game we play, this is nearly impossible to fix in the current mode of WoW.
Fair complained no comment, it sucks that the inconsistencies are there, also malfurion is so annoying at this point, just kill him imo instead of forcing him time and time again in a side role when he is insanely powerful. Feels bad man.
Difficult issue to solve in a live service model that wants the new ccontent to be as incentivised as possible, and in WoW’s case they do it so the new content rewards the best gear, so we’re incentivised to do it. It’s not the best solution but it is one, sucks but I would be curious as to what other solutions might be possible.
The sub hasn’t really increased in cost relative to inflation. That’s due to the monetization of other things.
Just buying a single movie released recently today costs more than what a sub to wow for a month costs. It used to be that the wow sub was more expensive in the past.
I think blizzard should adjust sub cost according to inflation. I was thinking 47 eur a month would be fair.
It is already at a different price point for every different money. As a canadian, it cost me more to play on European server than it would playing on American servers since your sub is a bit higher priced than our due to Blizzard pricing at fix X.99.
12.99Euro (19.59CAN$ actually, fluctuating) vs. 18.99CAN$
You can abuse it in a way, but you need to provide a valid address they regularly verify and your pricing is based on it. But if you were to connect on European server, while declaring you’re from a south american server, they can know it fairly easily and act accordingly.
There’s been some time when Euro was weaker and then it cost me less money to play (but it do not happens quite often, to be fair)
And there is that “Oh, but it’s so cheap!” comment.
Look at current issues WoW has:
- Lack of dev resources and a very tight release schedule results in compromised content quality
- Lack of QA results in the already rushed content being riddled with bugs, often rendering content unplayable until they hotfix it. In some cases, there have been quests that have been impossible to complete for weeks and months before someone had the time to look into them.
- People are being held hostage by the automated CS system to a point where it’s more likely that you will be banned by a bot farm mass reporting you than the bots being banned for botting. Or you might be banned for rolling on an item that someone else wanted and their guild just mass reported you for exploits. There’s no human support on Blizzard side to loon into the matter, and the outsourced company that is handling escalations are being paid by ticket volume, not quality of service. So they send a copy/paste response and close your ticket.
I am not saying the devs are useless - I am saying that the framework they are working in does not support a quality product. And if Blizzard is unable to provide a quality service, they should not be charging for a quality service.
It’s like Netflix charging 14 EUR for a premium service, but then you only get 720p streaming, there will be ads and if anything breaks on their end it will take weeks until someone gets around to fix it.
Even accounting for inflation, there is no justification for a full sub fee anymore.
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And that’s only considering the sub fee. There is also the Blizzard Shop, which - depending on the source - makes more money than the actual subscription model by a long shot. Blizzard does have more than sufficient monetisation to actually make WoW the powerhouse it used to be. But that would cut into their EBITDA I suppose.
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Except Netflix, even at its current pricing, is not worth it. There’s simply nothing to watch on it. If anything, they should pay you to watch the stuff they bring to it, because I’ve never seen a streaming service with so few quality series or movies as Netflix.
… Have you played WoW earlier?
In vanilla the servers used to crash constantly. Guilds engaging thaddius in naxxramas caused server wide lagging.
No offense, but your friends sound like a bunch of Karens.
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