Playing a healer as new player

Dwarves, drenei and DI dwarves for what? Priests and shamans? DI dwarves are unlocked for me, if I unlock them I can change the race, but I have to pay, right?
I was thinking about dwarf/ drenei shaman but they fits to the lore less then horde races (especially for elemental spec).

My main choices were druid/shaman on the 1st place (very tie) and priest as 3rd option.

Also I see you discribed healing as druid and priest. How would you discribe healing as shaman?

Also, which healer has defensive oriented playstyle in BGs/arenas and which one is desirable there?

its just a couple of buttons , a few cd and thats pretty much it … its even more boring then hunter.

for me, elemental shammy is super fun (holy handgrenades, crits are cor blimey) and varied, the melee shammy is good too, very different attack style (think rogue but not as dull and with extra kerpow lighting effects) and ouchies. Resto shammy is also a very good healer and easy enough to dps with too, during a healing lull.

holy priest will always be strong, disco will always be difficult but effective. im not gushing about holy pally and i believe (never used one) healy druids are swish.

for me, shammy will always be the prime choice … ranged dps, melee dps and healer option. fingers crossed they get a tanky spec at some point too.

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Not really.

Only thing is, be prepared to spec dps for solo stuff. Although as healer, your dungeon queues will be about 5 mins, and it’s entirely possible to level purely in that.

Pandaren! Their starting zone literally has us re-unite their elemental spirits with the local townsfolk. Also a really fun healer to play, my personal 2nd favourite for PvE and top for PvP.

I mean… we seem to be talking about a new character for the OP; healer dps isn’t relevant or questioned until endgame, by which time he’ll be competent enough :smile_cat:

Even then, you can get a long way while not doing dps. A monk for example can be perfectly viable in 15 keys without ever stepping into melee, just build with different stats and talents. Yes, it requires the actual dps to do a bit more, but it’s a rare day that my ~1k dps was the reason a timer was failed. I’d only accept that mantle if we missed by under 60 seconds.

Also, most pugs won’t actually notice what the healer is doing. As long as they’re keeping the group alive, they might as well be invisible :joy_cat:

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Did you mean DI Dwarves are locked for you?

If so, then yes, you can race change to them once they are unlocked, but you will have to pay.

But tbh, I find Dwarves - or Dark Iron Dwarves, if you prefer the darker look - very fitting as Shaman. YMMV, ofc.

Yes, locked, sorry will edit it. I am at work, so I am typing without much thinking :slight_smile: sorry for the confusion :slight_smile:

Are shamans agressive or more defensive oriented class? Same for druids…

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Healing is easy. Press buttons randomly and blame the tank and the dps if they die.

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But swapping specs is not that hard in retail comparing to classic (looking at price)?

And whos your 1st healer for PvE? Do you think Shamans are more defensive or offensive oriented then druids in PvP?

Hmm didnt think about Pandas, will have to check those fatboys :slight_smile:

Unless you are pushing keys and doing mythic raiding, people won´t even be expecting you to deal damage, and if you wipe everyone just blames the tank. So don´t worry about it.

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Swapping specs in Retail is Nothing. Just click to choose the new spec you want. There is no need to go anywhere, no delay, no cost.

Most armour is dual-spec; it will have both Agil for the Enh, and Int for Resto and Ele. Weapons and trinks may not. Rings and Necks don’t even have main stats any more; just secondaries. So you can use the same gear for all specs, except maybe wep and trinks. Of course, for anything non-trivial, you will want to keep spare gear to optimise your secondaries. But nowadays, if you have linked a spec to a set of gear, the gear automatically swaps with you when you click that button to swap specs! Magic!!

I would suggest checking YouTube for some examples of Resto Shaman gameplay in Shadowlands. And Icy Veins is a solid basic description: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/restoration-shaman-pve-healing-guide

P.S. See also

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/25/ (look at the number of parses, which indicates popularity of the spec, not just the HPS) and

id prefer my shammy, as it has a lot more things it can do in pve (presumably in pvp too, i know nothing of pvp sorry). holy priest is a very good healer but not much else beyond that, its essentially a pure healer spec with some big-bottom CDs that can be raid savers. resto shammy, you have slows, sheep, fastest recharging silence, elemental, fear totems, very strong aoe healing and lots more.

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In pve, no, in pvp, hell yes! When it comes to pve, if you pick any reactive healer like rshaman or druid, you will learn it during lvling or lower tier of dungeons. If you actually played a healer before, its not rly different. wow doesnt change much, just a slightly different rotation every expansion.

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Just go out and play, you doing fine specially If you played healer on classic. There is no really other way than que up and go. If and when you end up rush group and cant keep up or get removed just que again and dont give up. You can say that your new at healing sometimes it helps sometimes not and those rush groups are best teachers anyway cause they push you at your limits. And ofc if nothing else helps just kill them :slightly_smiling_face:

Try differend healers and go what you like most, you end up playing them all anyway after you play healer for while

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Play what you like and don’t listen to doomsayers, at the end of the day, healing is pretty relaxing if you go with the right mindset.

Take pug groups that take extra damage as a personal challenge to keep em up, don’t be those type of healers costantly whining because “uhuuuu you are making me sTrEsSeD”, try to keep em alive, learn to pump heals if needed, if groups fail and you get blamed take it as a chance to analyze what happened, they might be right and you will learn something new or they will blame you for their shortcoming and thus you should not be bothered by them.

Don’t go into dungeons with the “I can never be wrong” mentality, it will hurt you in the long run, but mistakes happens, don’t let the toxic people put you down.

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dwarves can be shamans and have cool lore.
Problem with healing is that there is more mechanics, so if your dps fails to perform them because he doesn’t understand them the stress falls on you.
As a healer you will know when someone made a momentary mistake and who have no idea the mechanics they are suppose to perform.

Edit also in retail there is a lot of healing checks mechanics, my favourite was Maut in nyalotha where he would reflect the damage back at everyone and there it was just four healers matching that damage, there was always that one fire mage going bananas that would kill himself… oh well.

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Level up a new healer by doing dungeons and you’ll have a gentle learning curve. Mobs in low-level dungeons don’t deal a lot of damage, and because you won’t have all your spells yet in lower levels, you’ll have an easier time getting used to the class’s core abilities. When you hit max level, do heroic difficulty dungeons, and only do mythic/mythic+ once you feel comfortable. M+ is when things start getting really challenging (but also fun).

Discipline priest is probably the hardest healer, followed by in my opinion holy paladin, so I’d recommend picking a different healer to start off with.

Swapping specs in retail is entirely free. It’s normal for most healers to bounce between that and a dps/tank spec for getting stuff done solo :smile_cat:

My first healer for PvE is this one - mistweaver monk. Had a rough 9.0, picked up a lot in 9.1, and is actually looking very good for 9.2. Which probably means it’ll be nerfed a bit before it goes live, but my hopes are high that Blizz have decided to let us have a day in the sun.

Shamans are very offensive, 2nd place to holy paladins afaik; you can build a resto shaman that’ll pull 2-3x the dps of a mistweaver or resto druid. That ranged interrupt is amazing in dungeons, and everyone wants you for bloodlust/heroism. What they don’t have is raw throughput. Strong toolkit, but you have to use it well to avoid having more damage happen than you can heal through.

I do genuinely like both. I’ve also played resto druid a lot in BfA and dabbled with it in SL, and while I like it, I prefer the more immediate healing of mistweaver or shaman. With a druid, you kind of need to have HoTs out before the big damage happens because you want the whole party to be ticking. With MW, you wait for the big damage, then cleave heal the party up in a couple of GCDs. I like those big crit whammies :joy_cat:

For me, monk is most fun because of the mobility; but a night fae resto shaman is close.

Although if you are inclined to run offspec dps often, I personally find boomie is more fun than elemental shaman. Again, because its mobility; you can set up for a good 75% of the time as casting while moving, and that’s just amazing. Shaman can do that a little bit, but boomie has mobile caster down. Throw in tiger dash for some burst speed when you need it, it comes close to the fun of monk for footspeed :joy_cat:

And yes, try pandaren - but make sure to start on the Wandering Isle, not the new all-in-one zone! If you want to know why I think they make good shamans, it’s important to begin there :smile_cat:

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Thank you very much for the explanation!

Monk is not my type for sure, so will probably skip it.

I decided to level both (Druid and Shaman) and see how it goes, since I like them the most.

I like instant healing more then HoT healing, since for HoT healing you have to know the mechanics and as the new player that can be a bit harder, but I prefer to have forms (especially with customizations and barber shops) which can be fun to collect. Not sure does totem glyphs exist.

I mained resto druid in classic and I am more familiar with the class, tried Shaman as well, but gave up fast since I struggled with totems twisting.

So rhe best way to decide us just to pick both classes and try them out. As someone said, leveling in retail is much faster and I am not un rush, so I won’t lose anything if I spread my first few days of playing two classes.

P.S. I am a huge dwarf fan so will be hard to pick Panda over it. :slight_smile:

Honestly, both are fun in their way. Druid I love for its versatility, shaman for it’s almost-a-dps caster capacity.

Not a thing any more :smile_cat: You can drop a healing stream and a tide totem if you like, they’ll coexist just fine. There’s also just less totems in general. You’ll have HS down often, the others are all on long cooldowns.

And yes, levelling is faster… but it’s not one night and you’re done :joy_cat: Nonetheless, I would encourage you to try both; but also try to recognise that you’ve not really sampled either fully until you’ve hit 60. And then done an M+15.

As much as you may be a dwarf fan… just… just try the pandaren start zone. It hooked me. You might be surprised at how much kinship there is with dwarves as well :joy_cat: Takes an hour to find out, right? :smile_cat:

Druid is more fun than shaman but requires you to have a group that has half a clue on how to play or you’re not going to have a good time at all since you can’t really rely on reactive healing as a druid, people will die then.

I personally found druid to be the most fun healing.

At least when i played it during BFA in M+.

Just feels more “Safe” to have heals always ticking on people.

If it’s just singular heals, it requires more precision and awareness it feels like

But maybe they changed stuff and druid is different now, it’s been quite a long time since BFA.