The whole system is flawed by design… Look how popular M+ is with it’s achievement/season reward system. You can sink hours into 2v2 or 3v3 and get nothing in return. I’d advise any new player to avoid it completely… It should come with a mental health warning… Lose and you will be punished. It breeds toxicity.
You are such a troll. You just need weird excuses to justify being on 1,8k even tho Hunter is absolutely broken rn in 2s. Just accept the fact that your “2,1k xp” comes from inflation and has absolutely nothing to do with your actual xp.
if you are fighting all those “glads” at 1,8k… who was I competing with when I got to 2,1k? Tournament players?
This game have many problems, to many and they ignore it for years. lets be real…
we can sit here and argue about glads in low bracet, solo q, new players ,boosters, game balance, game disgn, no test, ignoring alpha test cuase they know better with their 200years exp, old engine, sux story, u cant world pvp cause lags, pay to win, time gating, and the list do not stop, cause they ignore / dont give a damn for YEARS. if the company is not willing to make something to change reputation on what it is, and they dont cause they got a lot of money with low investment all we can do is unsub at the point that you think its good, cause there is no sign that it will be MUCH better.
They will not change it in 10.0.0, without big investment to the game and people and sad part is they will not do it cause its cheaper to make meh game with low cost and still drain money from us (w3 refound some1 remeber?)
everyone who still playing jump on the most OP classes. fury lock hpriest rogue mages huntards and the good ones like feral dh etc etc. and what about xx other specs in the game? that have useless / bad legendary, set bonuses ? yeah lets ignore this fact for 1.5 year and focus on 10.0.0 
, its not like blizzard hit lower of the low… and we need changes but yeah they do nothing and even when they do something its not important things that dont changes the fact how bad this game has become. nothing they do bring ppl to the game i would say its oposite, they do not enough that ppl could be interested to play it or comeback to the game.
but for me most worry fact is: who wanna work for blizzard right now after all this happend in last few years ?
10-8 years ago working for blizzard mean something right ? and now all this ppl who create the blizzard games and made ICONIC GAMES that change industry are gone. (sc, w1-2-3 , d1-d2, wow in same point)
It is better for them to get the incompetent and cheap replacement dev to make games that are not tested and half done and rip off our money thanks to the micropayments, subs what ever u wanna call it (lets be real this is how it is in this days in industry), than to go back to what the blizzard was. Nobody has the idea and vision to turn this mmo upside down so that this game would have 12 million subscribers again. money talks.
peace bois.
And you are just another one going to ignore who I dont even care read past one sentence, people such as you are never saying anything worth reading
And do on keep making new forum alts to post from Ill just put them on ignore aswel
I see the type of crap you come from on first sentence what people like you write and I stop reading there so dont feel you need to waste your time replying to me
Have blessed day now toxic kid 
Oh no… please! Don’t ignore me! What am I gonna do with my life now?
You have proven yourself already being a delusional kid. Nothing changed here.
Still calling other people kids while literally behaving like a 12-year-old?
Instead of blaming everything and everyone else while lying why you struggle, you might wanna actually be an actual adult for a second and try to understand your misplays and improve from there? Guess that’s hard, huh? Crying and complaining is always easier, maybe that’s why kids do it?
And I repeat when someone is put on ignore it stays and anything the person would be trying to continue say is never going to be read
Cant put it more clear than this, I dont see the point on trying reply to me when all I see is “hidden reply” which I do not open
Massive understanding issues it seems
Once again dont feel you need to reply to me as its not going to reach me. Feel free to continue toxic existence on bugger other people tho
I cut toxic people out from my vicinity for reason like a warm knife cuts butter 
“I totally don’t open your hidden replies and I totally don’t read them okay?!? You are ignored!!!”
XD
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I assume all these ignored replies coming from people trying defend flawed system of people playing on lower mmr they belong with either gear or xp advantage or both which were the original point of this post before biased toxic people happen 
We have streamers saying on live how “once I get this alt on duelist gear ill drop mmr and go play on 1700 for fun” 
I mean if that is not toxic then I dont know what is
Just picture this scenario for second where any r1 equivalent player with also max obtainable gear on his character is able to go play on 0cr when ever he pleases if he choses do so
Anyone trying defend this kind of system is clearly biased or not right in mind, it is flawed beyond for sure and only of a kind in any competitive game out there. When every other game is using brachets of bronze, silver, gold once reached you are bound in or account bound mmr
Looking in next expansions implementation for pvp it is looking bit better and that they are trying to do something to improve this game for pvp
who does that? if they drop to 1.7 after couple of games they are 1.9 already again if they rly outskill the mmr hard and win every game. but ye idk who u talk about most multi glad streamers dont have trouble reaching 2.1 with their alts.
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ur somewhat right about the glad exp people on 1.8 mmr. their certainly not 50% but there are more 2.4 exp players then i thought. but i dont think that is because they drop mmr or sth. they just play currently on that mmr because they cant outclimb it.
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“most multi glad streamers dont have trouble reaching 2.1”
Where do you see someone stateing that he would have trouble reaching his alt 2.1?
Ofc they dont have effort to gear when going trough lower brachets with similar achievement people than they self or playing mainly with friends of similar xp
The point that you seemed miss were that this is a thing and possible to do with this system and even so more noticeable when the ladders are “dead” and mostly just the long time dedicated ones left
i missunderstood this i guess. sounded to me like they try to get 2.1 and then drop.
ye they dont have effort and they outclimb those brackets pretty fast when playin with their same xp friends.
whats ur suggestion to that?
like i cant play dk and hpal on the same mmr because im just way worse on healer. so having to play all chars on the same mmr would be a big bummer because then i had to retire my hpal.
i think as i said that the “problem” currently is that mmr is just way lower then it was season 2. the highest rating i got was top 7000 season 2 and the same rating now would be top 1500. just think about that, its a huge difference. so its just logical that more higher exp people are stacked on lower mmr.
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This is also true, but current is also problem on a game that is trying build competitive enviroment in system which is build as such where any skill/gear differences essentially can be matched against each other if people chose to manipulate the system later on
I dont mind the early season differences on climb so much when everyone start from 0 and some people advance higher faster but after months of pushing with random people from lfg example and mostly going against people with glad exps and higher gearing their 8th alts or such with the advantage of playing with similar xp friends or lfg people with similar high achievents on a 1700-1800mmr it gets very boring and tiresome
I just think that this is not smart on the longevity of the pvp in this game or very well designed system on blizzards end
Personally Im waiting the next expansions gearing system, I think its how it should be in first place and that any gear shouldnt have multiple levels of artificial grind on it 
Just feels like a time sink with no other purpose than keep ppl on the wheel longer
And not to mention the unlogical design on brachet based gear with the current system if player A has means on advancing to best possible gear faster than player B and then the player A has choise on putting the player B on a even bigger disadvantage than on first place now with a 20-30% dps difference trough higher gear and slow his advancing even more 
I dont have perfect answer for this except that it is flawed system for a game that is trying to build “competitive” enviroment in it
“whats ur suggestion to that?” I dont have perfect suggestion for it sadly but Im paying for the game monthly sub and bought every expansion for past 17 years funding peoples careers that actually get paid for this so my meaning is that as paying customer im suspecting some kind of worth for my money and some work done by the people who do get paid for this
Most games use brachets which reached you are “bound” to and yes people go around it with alts and some games use account tied mmr which people go around with multiple accounts when they want to play with their friends on lower mmr
None of these games use brachet based gear btw which wow uses in shadowlands, so if anything with wow not having any kind of system to even remotely keep matchmaking “even” and yet having multiple item levels on gear tied on brachets sametime they make things even more worse than on other games 
By removing item level on gear and brachet tied gearing in general is a big step on improvement I recon if nothing else is changed
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i dont understand the obsession with gladiator, if i’d count how much time every1 wrote “gladiator” in this thread…
i dont have gladiator, but still reached 2.1 nearly 2.2 in 2nd week of the season, now what? you guys need to let this gladiator=god thing, so what if some1 is gladiator? the game became extremly comp and gear based in the past years, players individual skill is the smallest difference in an arena game, to stick with this thread logic, a “non gladiator” hpri surv will easily beat a “gladiator” rdru warr…
i agree that higher rated players dropping to low mmr/boosting is bad for the game and ruins the experience for lower rated players, but saying that this is the ONE AND ONLY reason why some1 is stuck on low rating is just stupid, ofc it makes it harder, but if you are a 2.4k or 2.1k player in terms of skill, then you will get that eventually maybe boosters will slow you down but you will get it, if you are stuck 1.8k then obviously boosters is part of the reason, but in just a small part.
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man this game sucks , why are people defending the flawed rating system
its literally aids to use LFG
and lets not get started on the META or gtfo ethos
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There are people getting gladiator achievements by first reaching 2.4 playing with their friends and then proceeding to gain the 50 wins on 1600-1700mmr with the same friends on alts and if the guy with 2.4 drops the same friends log their 2.8xp mains and they do couple games to reach him 2.4 again and continue farming the wins for him on 1700mmr games on their alts. Clearly you are able to see the idiocy and flaw on ranking system in wow my friend
“i dont have gladiator, but still reached 2.1 nearly 2.2 in 2nd week of the season”
This shouldnt be any supprise if you have people to consistently play with and you all have reached the said duelist ranks before. I mean there is nothing impressive or weird about it enough to brag on, not saying that you are but stateing that it is normal and to be suspected if one understands little of backround on how wows pvp is played with this system.
I would had 2.1 start of season aswel if I had people to push with instead of being a solo dps player in lfg without long time achievements for pvp to show
Heck people even have higher geared friends come even on 0 rating to lift their friends fast on the max gear so they can start playing with them
Without soloq and the system we have for pvp its just a fact that some people have easyer time playing it than others
Lets take streamer contents as example where guy sets goal on himself on reaching glad on every spec in the game and plays with friends who are able to boost even novices to the game to glad ranks if they wanted to in 3’s 
And ofc any alts people need geared can be fast lifted trough 3’s or even 2’s like this to the duelist if they chose so
There is alot to take in account with the rated system wow uses for gamemode they are wanting to be competitive but which is kinda flawed to the core right now and has been for long time
Like someone said if you are new to it and not willing on investing over 1000 euros worth of currency on gaining achievements to get to play the game he dont even recommend start playing it this is pretty over exaggerated to say but there is some turth on it
Wow is a game where you need to know people beforehand before you can really start playing rated mode on it with this system after all, either that or have years of achievements to show so you dont need to put multiple hours waiting for partner in lfg system just to get to play the game
i literally play with lfg, the last time my m8s were online was bfa s2 and early s3, my bnet is either offline since years/playing classic/left bcz the game is bad (cant blame them)
stop making excuses, its a weird thing that theres always a imaginary nesquik rabbit ppl can blame for losing/not getting rating
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And you dont think that having achievements from previous expansions is an advantage when going play lfg?
Are you this dim or is this a sad attempt to troll
“i dont have gladiator, but still reached 2.1 nearly 2.2 in 2nd week of the season”
I am not making any excuses I am clearly stateing that you are delusional if you think you dont have advantages with this system we have on this game
Dont know if its ego or the feel that your rating wouldnt mean as much as you think if you admitted the flaw of system why everyone is so keen on defending it but Im tired of debating about the matter especially with trolls