Plea from Turkish Community

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Me? Oh no, this isn’t going to affect me as long as I’m here.
I lived 30~ years in Turkey, I’m still connected to the community and create some content for fun as well. We were talking about it on Twitter and someone mentioned making a thread so I went ahead and made it : )

Those billions of people dreaming about a PC aren’t customers to Blizzard from a country Blizzard is paying attention to I guess, since Blizzard likely wouldn’t expect much from that country : )

@Vulpie
That’s definitely a possibility. We’re simply bringing up a problem from our pov.

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Because you pay for a service, not the amount of content said service offers. If you don’t agree, you are free to cancel your subscription or not take one in the first place.

Studios enforce copyright by country , as different markets have different demands for specific content. … Netflix and the studios both understand this, and the studios charge more for Netflix to offer the streaming of specific titles in some countries compared to others.

Redirect your complaints to the studios and once again you are free to cancel your subscription.

Similar to the Netflix-scenario, the developers of said games DECIDE what the price and/or availability should be per region basis. Not Steam/Valve.

So if per example a Developer has no office building in said region that can handle that type of currency, or feels like it would lose more than it would gain by selling in a certain country/region. They can decide to not sell their product/service in that country/region in the first place.

Blizzard has no obligation to provide any country access to their services.

There’s no thing a Turkish market can’t provide in :slight_smile: --It wouldn’t surprise me if they offer ‘addresses’, ‘bankaccount numbers’ or anything of the likes for a price.

But like many have mentioned before in this and other threads, I’d be more worried about authoritarianism, bad (economic) policies and bad international relationships thanks to the one man sitting on the ‘throne’, rather than complaining about a subscription fee of a game.

I would say start at the root-cause of the issues…

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The only people that can really do anything about this is your government.

Now considering that your leader regards all social media as immoral I would think he has a similar view of online gaming too.

So, what to do ?

Strikes me that the real answer to your issue would be a change of government.

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If you start to do that then you have to adapt to every countries’s income because even though some countries use the € as well , some have extremely low incomes so it would be normal to lower the price for them as well

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Russians play in their server, we don’t have that big of a community. Let’s be honest, Turkish wow players are generally rich and financially top 1 to 10 percent of the country, many people in our country can’t get decent education or other basic needs let alone playing Wow. idk seems like ‘‘git gud’’ situation in terms of politics.

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First, I’m not ok with this. We all have to pay the same price because we receive the same service.

Second, it’s not gonna get better. This pandemic affects the world economy and local economies and we haven’t even started feeling the real effects. So it may get worse.

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There is the possibility of using tokens. I guess that’s how Blizzard is addressing the problem. Play more - pay less.

I do acknowledge it does have problems as demand for 30d playtime token is remarkably higher in EU servers than on NA servers. But it seems to me a trade between people who have money, but not time vs. people who do have time, but not money.

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But u dont pay 50€, it just feels like, right? U pay 13€ like rest of europe.

According to google, your minimum wage is ~100€ lower than in my country, which imo aint that big of a difference. Ofc i dont how much expenses on living you have in turkey and what not, but if i assume its similar to mine, we should also demand lower prices, and other EU countries too, which imo wont work.

Out of curiosity, what price for sub will be “good” for you?

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I do hope Blizzard takes this subject more seriously.

I met few turkish players in Twisting Nethers and they are not aggressive.

I think it is a win-win for Blizzard. If they reduced the prices to reasonable level then surely more players will subscribe or renew their subscription.

More players is what WOW needs now, so why not!

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Has nothing to do with them being aggressive or not , its that if they do that they have to adapt to every single country’s income.

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This.

As an eastern european that has the same monthly income like turkish people(google numbers) I must say the price is still decent. That of course is influenced by the cost of living.
And if they are going to introduce such thing a lot of people will change the location and buy cheaper subscriptions as is currently happening on steam. There are a lot of games that are available globally(not region locked or something) and you can buy them for 2 euros from Argentina eventhough the standard price is 30.

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I oppose this for a simple reason:
Multibotter / Chinafarmer (yes offensive but you know what I mean) would take advantage of that.

There is no reason to have people of Turkish origin pay less.
If you can afford the hardware and internet for wow, then you should also pay the price for the subscription.

The only reason why wow china has different prices is because the have a different publisher.
Turkish playerbase apparently doesn’t warrant that so tough luck.

And yes I’m biased towards Turkish entitlement if you want to know

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This is because the German consumer base is more attractive because of its buying power and I think localisation is more streamlined here.

So if Turks become as attractive as Germans as customers, you will get the same treatment.
Asking for a regional discount won’t be doing that.

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Your google is broken apparently, lol. You can’t even google a minimum wage properly how can we take you seriously :smirk:

Actually nope, the problem is different currency, they don’t have to adjust prices for EU countries one by one because Euro is a stable currency and even small countries like Bulgaria keep value of their currency because they are a part of European Union.

Anyway, let me tell you this my OP bro, I don’t think there will be a price adjustment.

I would personally not play wow if it weren’t for WoW token with considering the prices. It is their decision, less players with same prices or more players with let’s say 9€ Monthly price and it seems like Blizzard don’t care neither do I :smile_cat:

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The euro might be stable but the average salary in all euro countries is not the same , so you would have to adjust depending on the country , even if they have euro , simply because it wouldnt be fair. If you cater to one you have to cater to everyone

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How is my google broken and why cant you google minimum wage?

Mayne you should enlightnen me and tell me what minimum wage they have in turkey?

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Something like 250€ more or less. With 100 € you can only pay the rent and can’t even buy food lol.

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I re read what you said, so you meant 100€ lower than my country? Your are living in a country with 350€ is that so?

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Its 422 according to google (7/2019 cant find anything new to it)

This doesnt realy checks up tho, OP says with minimum wage u can get 30+ months of game time, which is 13x30=390, u says its 250, thats a huge difference… Where is truth then?

Also, you should consider yourself lucky if u can get rent for 100€.

In my country minimim wage is 520~, and rent is about 300+ in most cities, and thats usualy not even for whole apartment.
Ofc u can get it cheaper if u take something without bathroom and stuf…

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It doesnt change the fact that if they have to adapt to one country they have to adapt to all countries regardless of currency.