Nope, i meant turkey has 100€ lower than mine. Mine 520 vs turkey 400± ( acording to google, and also to OP calculations with gametime)
Currently it is 283€ even worse let me tell you 1 month later this will be 260 then 230 190 and here we go 80, then we will have a Civil War so problem solved we won’t have to worry about WoW sub prices lol.
WoW is not mandatory though if you dont have the income you shouldnt be playing , food and bills come first.
Same reply as given every time this subject comes up…If person cannot afford WoW then don’t buy it…WoW is a luxury and not a necessity, if someone needs reminding of that then there is no hope. Many times I couldn’t afford the monthly sub, so I didn’t buy one until I could.
Well, ukraine has it same afaik, maybe worse, that would mean lower price for them too, and there is more countries like that.
What price would you like?
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Your salary is 283 or minimum wage acros whole country? Just for clarification
Actually I don’t care, I already have enough gold for 1 more year, already bought the most expensive shadowlands bundle, was it Epic?.. and also moving to EU soon.
It is minimum wage for our country, not mine. I am an unemployed person, no one wants to work with me because of my low iq (sadfaaace)
people you can talk as much as you like about minimum salaries and stuff, but rember that just becuse one country have less than the other it doesnt meen other stuff are cheap though. here is an example, I do it euros to make it more simple for my self.
lets say Turkey, your minimum is 350euros, and Finland where I live in it is 1000 euros. took theese numbers out of the blue.
now in turkey, you get that 350, and your rent is 150, you have 200 left to live for, seems low right, but here is the thing, prices over all is lower there also, actualy way lower.
in finland you get 1000, then you pay rent 560 euros, you have 440 left, but prices in shops are high, I meen realy high, above average in europe, meening you can bearly live whit it.
though to not sound to silly, in finland you most likely get help from the social services what makes things easier for you also. not gona say about how turkey is becuse that I do not know.
but bottom line is, even if it looks like other countries got it way better, that is not always the case at all, a wow sub for many can be a problem at times.
for example if I would go to turkey whit that 400 I have left, I could live almost 2 months there and not have any major problems, due to currency exchange, but in finland I would bearly last a month again.
but this all comes down to how the political system in countries works, Turkey got their problems and so does every other country, heck Finland has been getting warnings about ther socialservices for the past 10 years atleast, becuse they are to low, compared to other eu countries.
It is similar to auction house, if we had mission tables rewarding us with 10k gold per day then a transmog that costs 10 k currently would have 50k price. The more you earn the more industries demand from you, your money. Whether it is food or healthcare regardless of what it is.
yeah it is, but many who makes theese threads seems to forget about how much more expencive it can be in other countries, even if it on paper looks they are way more richer, what not always is 100% accurate, becuse the difference between rich and lower income ones is seriously huge instead in those countries.
I think the best and the most realistic goal for Turkish players would be focusing on Boosting Services by creating communities so that they can buy their game times and blablas without a problem. As I’ve stated earlier Blizzard don’t seem eager to solve this issue anytime soon
Still it can’t be worse than Turkey right now, even Bulgarian currency is x4 of TL now rofl. saying it again bUlGaRiAn cUrReNcY.
When I read or hear something like TL or Turkish Lira this video starts to play in my mind right away.
Yep. You can buy a week’s supply of food here for 13 euro, and the average salary is 300-400 euro a month. Over 12k retired people here have a pension of 120 euro a month lol.
So yeah, Turks aren’t the only ones who have it tough.
You are right comrade Uruk with that we here in Serbia are also affected but we still can afford a sub and a game it’s a luxury of course in here and it’s true we can afford food for a month with sub .
Hey OP, there is truth to this unfortunately.
The problem is that if one country gets special treatment, every country will want it too. That said, I do see the dilemma.
For myself after taxes, the WoW subscription is just 2 hours of work a month on minimum wage. But for my friend in Eastern Europe, it’s 30 hours of work on minimum wage.
That’s a pretty big difference. In other countries, where the wage is even lower, affording the subscription can seem completely irrational and not worth the time.
In a way, being able to buy game time with gold, actually becomes more profitable than doing IRL work as you can earn 200k gold a week
So why doesn’t Activision Blizzard adjust the price for certain countries?
Well, because of VPN.
If they announce that in Turkey, the price of subscription is only 1 Euro, everyone will use a VPN to “pretend” that they are in Turkey even though they aren’t to pay less.
From Activision Blizzard’s perspective, it is therefore more profitable, to have the product at a universal world wide price, in order to avoid VPN fraud.
I’m really sorry But World of Warcraft, is not affordable by everyone.
Think this is a valid point… was about to raise it myself.
Dear everyone, thanks for all the input.
I want to re-emphasize a few things I said in the OP and/or through the posts (which you might not have read, there are 50+ posts now :D) and add a couple of points:
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This doesn’t have to be exclusive. If other countries need that, they can voice their concerns. But TR community only knows about the plight of TR community, so that’s the one we talk about.
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We are simply raising our concern. Blizzard is the one who will decide if it makes business sense for them
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We, the Blizzard community by ourselves, do not have the power to change politics. So we neither “elected” the government, nor made the decisions they did, nor can we just “dethrone” them. For some reason this doesn’t seem clear to everyone!
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About economics of other countries, I want to remind one difference and I think this is a point that I didn’t properly position in my OP. This is not just about buying power generally. This is about the DRASTIC change in our currency in the last decade.
And sure, economy going sour is our own burden to carry and with or without the cold, non-empathetic condescension of some people here, Turkish people carry it and not just at WoW. We KNOW that. You don’t have to tell us.
And no, wow community isn’t “rich”. There are so many people who just farm for tokens but that also means a lot of them just has to spend all their time on farming.
- And again: We are NOT asking for this because we think they should be kind to us and life should be fair. We are talking about business, and something that other platforms have considered and actively do. They also don’t do it to be kind, they do it because they made the calculation of “smaller base * higher price” vs “bigger base * lower price”. (obviously there is more to it, I’m just simplifying)
Blizzard started official activity in Turkey. They do some community management, have a TR CM and marketing and we want them to consider that they might be making more money due to increased interest+people who’ll start paying instead of farming+people who start playing because the paywall is managable. I can’t do the analysis though, that’s up to them.
- A good question was how much it should be. No idea, but I don’t think anyone expects 1/5 increase as the currency. As mentioned before, I started to topic to help out but I don’t live in Turkey myself so I can’t judge.
But 13€, for someone who lives in Berlin means a few drinks, a meal, 1-2 movie tickets etc. So something that compares to that I guess?
Edit: Apparently, I don’t know how to count
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Not necessarily. As an example, currently, Steam forces you to choose a location. Once you do, you can only purchase from there. You need a number or credit card from a Turkish Mobile provide/Turkish bank. I’m pretty sure their systems also check for multiple purchases from a single card etc.
Furthermore, you can’t gift from Turkey to a country with higher prices.
And they have pricing for pretty much any currency (should the publishers choose to use it)
Rockstar asks for German ID information before you buy on their launcher (and despite being in Germany I wasn’t able to buy anything lol)
Afaik, there are middleman payment companies in TR that also ask for ID information.
So there are options that severely reduce scam and if they are harsh about punishing this, I think it would be at a minimum.
That said - this is also once again up to Blizzard to analyze this.
I saw earlier in the post that Russia having its own pricing.
I thought Russian players only had their own pricing if they played on Russian servers, if they wanted to play on the wider Europe servers they had to pay the European prices?
It seems like you’re struggling a bit with the quote feature in the forums. If you highlight someone’s text it lets you an option to “quote” that part.
Thank you, I love you. I haven’t really written by official forums since a long time…
If they do this. What is there to stop us (from the richer countries) from using a vpn and getting it cheaper?
It is not uncommon for different industries to have different prices depending on the countries.
Example:
Many westerners in Europe were confused when they saw many of the refugees, back in 2016, walk on the roads with Iphones, because they thought:
- The refugees are poor
- Iphones cost the same around the world
Where in reality, Iphones are some of the, if not the, most expensive in the western countries.
The difference here is that a WoW subscription is a digital product. However, Steam has already made those changes in that regard.
If you can somehow change your Steam account to recognize you living in South Africa, you’ll be able to get the same games much, much cheaper.