Plea from Turkish Community

It is my experience, you are trying to read something into it that’s not there. They said racists things in dungeons chat, I called them out on it, they said they were Turkish.

I don’t think I’m racist.

I doubt it, if I were around you I would be extra carefull with my wording just so you wouldn’t twist it and report it falsely.I am pretty sure those people in your dungeon wasn’t ‘‘extremely racist’’ either.

I mean I am not suprised I haven’t seen one positive thing by you in this forums over the years.Always something comes out.I usually don’t mind it but since this thread is kind of related to my people, and you are most likely accusing them falsely, let alone trying to generalize them negatively, of course I mind.

Just don’t spew whatever comes first and try to word it carefully, especially when saying something like that out of the blue in a non-related thread.So one would think you are not with ill-intentions.

I actually wrote a longer post but I’ll not derail this thread with it.This is the last response.

Then you are not looking hard enough.

I thought I was careful, people from any country can be racist, my post was an example of one specific country and because it’s yours you took exception, insulted me and read far more into it that was actually there.

Nowhere have I or would I say everyone from a country had the same attitude to something. Just like every other country, people have vastly different views, some are extreme, my views aren’t.

Yes I read it, you called me a she. Isn’t that sexist? You assumed I have the same gender as my character. You should really use a neutral pronoun next time.

I swear you made the same post last month @Mharla?

At the end of the day this cheaper sub your constantly harping on about it just wont happen and quite frankly I dont think you deserve to pay less over anyone else because put bluntly WoW is a luxury not a necessity so if you can’t afford to pay the sub then unsub until you can which sounds harsh but its just the truth.

Blizzard will never give up free money for the sake of your wallets and its very childish for you to even think they would.

You have absolutely zero proof that anything of these things would happen if they reduced the sub price your just trying to hopefully fool them with your opinions rather than cold hard data which is the only thing companies listen to.

I dont enjoy paying 9.99 a month to play a video game but I do but I have never once in 15 years thought that because this game is hurting my wallets I should try and rally the community in some half baked attempt at getting them to reduce my sub fees.

To end my post I’ll just sum it up with - Aint gonna happen so stop asking.

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You are now asking for it.

No you were not, just like all other closet racists in this thread who are trying to devalue what Turkish players say by randomly talking about their ‘‘experiences’’ with Turkish players when no one even asked.It’s not even related with the actual topic.

Now, Turkish players might be wrong in their reasoning in this thread about Lira price regulations, that I don’t mind.Try to counter what they said without straying away from the actual topic.

But now comes the tricky part, ya know what truly scummy closet racists do in threads like this revolving around one group of people? They try to devalue the thread by giving their ‘‘experiences’’ with the said people, and who knows if they are true or not.Still, It’s done with purpose to derail the thread, and generalize said people and point them in a bad light.

That’s what you tried.

How many Turkish players have you known ,exactly? and made this assumption?Do you realize friendly Turkish players ‘‘exists’’ as well?
I once been ignored by a sweedish girl once just because i said im from Turkey lol.But i dont assume all sweedish people are racist.ı regularly try to chit chat,to break the ice. There are 2 types of people, bad people and good people. You have to search more.People tend to blame other races for their inability to communicate each other.
The people you’ve came in touch are probably racists, that shouldnt make you ‘‘assimilate like a borg’’ to be a racist as well.Racism is a cancer; left from 18’th century.

I really hope so.This is just a game,i hate it when it becomes a political racial debate and flame wars.

So saying that They are Turkish is racist? umm hello? am i missing something here? I have a weird gut feeling you are hiding your true emotions, and not telling the truth.(or only telling us the half truth)

You have just written a completely biased personal view of Turks based of your perception. It didnt belong this topic, not it was necessary, you just wanted to divert and divide the aim of topic.If you were sincere, you would accept that your ‘‘personal experience about Turks’’ story is downright devaluing the Turkish racial image in the public eye; and you would apologize for bringing your assumptions into this topic here.Right now, you sound like downright racist.

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That’s exactly what she tried to do like all other closet-racists in this thread.And they really think they can get away with it without being called out.

Hilarous.If they came out as they are I wouldn’t mind it.But I hate this kind of -throw a shade and derail the point- scummy acts.

The day the Turkish government acknowledge the Armenians genocide, then we can talk. I’ve not come across a single turk who acknowledges that.

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they announced themselves as Turkish FFS will you all get that into your heads, I did not assume they were Turkish, they said they were. Of course I realise nice Turkish players exist and they they are the vast majority, I don’t ask every player were they are from then insult them for it.

They are racist because of what they said not where they were from, will you read all I said before posting?

Don’t you bloody well start too.

I have not again scroll up to read it all.

No, it’s saying all nations people can be racist.

Hell no. They are not assumptions, they are facts. They said racist words, I reported them and then they said they were Turkish, while I was reporting them. They could have been Russian, French or any countries nationals.

How is the racism is related with thread in any way , form or shape, when it’s talking about Lira price regulations? Answer that without tip-toeing around the subject.You know what you did.Don’t act naive now.

You started the racist name calling.

No. YOU started randomly talking about your ‘‘bad’’ experiences about Turkish people in totally unrelated Lira price regulations thread.With what intentions, I wonder.

My bad Experience, as in a single one. I was relaying my experience.

You then started wildly accusing me of being racist because I said something about your countrymen you didn’t like.

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Can we stop with the racism argument and keep this thread on topic?

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You are admitting to it even now, and I am asking who asked you about your experiences with Turkish people? In a totally unrelated topic? About LIRA price regulations?

Is this really that hard to grasp, can’t your brain process it at this point? Or doing it on purpose?

People where talking about Turkish players.

There you go again, insulting me. Calling me stupid, well, I’m not, you are just hating on me for saying something that happened to me.

You can deny it all you want but you are.

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You don’t jump off the roof just because everyone does.

Every single closet-racist who tried to derail this thread by going on and on about Turkish players in this totally unrelated thread when no one asked, are at fault.They did it with ill-intentions, and things like this don’t go unnoticed.

Try this another time and you are gonna get called on again.

The day Armenian government acknowledges Armenians started a civil war to break apart from Ottoman State; then we talk.I’ve not came across a single Armenian who acknowledges that.

I’ve replied you with your own logic.How does it feel?Does it create anything constructive?You are puking your racial hate into a post based on ‘‘wow local Turkish pricing’’ . Are you aware that you are like ''HEEEY İ HATE TURKS !!! BECAUSE MY COUNTRY TELLS ME TO HATE THEMM !! You are talking with your political leader’s mind.Not your own.You are brainwashed.Turkey proposed to open up ottoman archives once,your country declined.Do you realised that? Turks have been dying while being dislocated as well; in history.Why not tell about it as well? Were you so naive and stubborn to not research history by yourself? Did you know that Ottoman state sultan byhimself ordered a squad of soldiers to protect Armenians that were on road to east as well? Many of that soldiers died on the way to east as well.There were pillage and bandits on whole way to east.Also seperatists; that wanted to break free from ottoman state.War is war,and people die at wars.You also do well know about that.



Anyways, aside from politics; i’ve only met 1 armenian once.It was a girl at my age. She was singing one of the most beatiful Turkish Folk song i’ve ever heard.She had a lovely voice,had a beatiful face ; as soon as i asked where she is from ,and that she sings gracefully; she turned to me and said she is Armenian with a cold voice,with hallow eyes and stopped singing. And i felt weird about it .‘‘i said oooke’’ ı didnt push much about it, but deep inside i’ve learned that she was poisoned with the ideology of racial hate from her ancestors.I wish i could break that cycle,i couldnt.Years later i’ve seen her in a mall, she was one of the most elegant mother’s ive seen, and she was married.I couldnt dare to talk her.I didnt even remembered her name.Anyways.Life is hard. If i had the political power, i would open relations with Armenia ,give free visa to armenian citizens to work and travel,repair the damage done by wars, and end the hatred that has been brew over half a century.

Let the hate go.Hate doesnt create relations, or opportunities.

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I used to use N word too to joke about it that doesn’t mean you are racist. Do you know Turkey is one of the most safest places a black guy can live? I’ll be honest, I dislike actually hardly dislike black people living in USA etc but I like black people living in my country. They don’t steal, they don’t try to verbally or sexually assault people so I like them, they can stay as much as they want in our country. I’d prefer them over muslim syrians if I had to choose between 2 races. Why shouldn’t I? Honourable african people just trying to live their lives by generally selling watch etc, they like selling watch since it is practical :smiley: Respects to our fellow black people living in Turkey from here :+1: .

And yea, I’m Turkish but sometimes I tell people I’m from Burundi Republic.

Chill dude, why do you take it so seriously. This is internet, relaax.

It does ;

Guys, can we stop this racism talk and get back to the topic, please? The thread has been derailed enough already.

Not me, but I’m not surprised if others want it. Things that the sub-communities request strongly tend to have constant topics about it (similar to some class related or pve/pvp related requests)

Have you read the OP? No one’s expecting to “give up free money.” It’s the other way around, we think they might have free money to grab.

Of course I don’t have proof. How do you expect me to have data on Blizzard’s player numbers in Turkey over time, their playing and payment behaviour, Blizzard’s tools, partnerships, internal expectations and goals?
I made it quite clear that we ask this to be considered. It’s not an “order”. No one expects someone to take a look at this and flip a switch.

Of course, it might not happen. That’s obviously one of the possibilities when you ask for a plea to be considered. That being said, while I might not have the data, neither do you. So going with your logic you have “zero proof that it ain’t gonna happen.”

So thanks for your input I guess, we’ll see what happens.

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