I would like nothing more than to stay on ZT, but Another 2 guilds from our side are leaving and possibly a further one after a month. If nobody left due to hysteria, we would all probably be fine. We are also now focusing more inward and some guilds we have come to know on the server that was part of the guild at one stage or another. Our LFG channel is just a barren wasteland at the moment in comparison of course.
Thing is, Iām lucky in the sense that I only have 2 level 70s that I would like to transfer if it comes to that. If you have 3, 4 or even more level 70s I think the fee is like 25 euro per character and that can run up pretty high for a one-time transfer cost. Think this is also a reason why people are hesitant. Of course ZT always has been a cosy smaller RP realm (also with some drama but in general nice experience compared to super realms), but thatās maybe a small factor in whether we end up staying.
I have 3 70ās and another 2 that are on the way. We just have to see how it goes. Getting people new people now on a server will take some tremendous effort and advertising if possible at all.
Considering how they acted in Classic with various other guilds, they were probably part of the problem with Horde jumping ship as soon as possible. Fortunately itās not been anywhere near as nightmarish in TBC with the loss of world buffs, but the bad smell of ganking Alliance guilds has probably remained.
(Try entering current raids without getting killed 1-2 times by Allianceā¦)
Iād follow my guild wherever they go, whether thatās staying on ZT or transferring to somewhere else more populated. Itās nice to think Activision-Blizzard would try and fix the problem but I highly doubt they plan to do anything about it; itās more money watching raid guilds pay for transfers en masse.
I think that situation isnāt unique to our realm. When weāre standing around the SSC summoning stone, the majority faction at the time will always have some people killing the other faction passerbyās. I personally donāt see the fun so I leave them alone mostly, but in general people like being the majority faction. You can see that if you look up the realm numbers on ironforge.pro, most pvp realms are extremely lopsided to horde (and some to alliance). The only fairly even realm at the moment with enough numbers is Firemaw.
Of course Praxis had some shenanigans with the āno war effort no scarab lordā but I believe on another realm they had some guild as well who got denied at the dragon NPC at the caverns of time (think it was āGrizzlyā). At least our realmsā horde managed to break through the blockade and have memes etc.
I think the decline is just a general tendancy of people wanting to play on mega realms and always on the dominant faction.
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I took a break in Sept due to r/l issues - came back today and found ZT to be pretty much dead. What happened exactly and where did everyone go? Not too keen on moving 5 chars to a new realm at Ā£19 per char.
it probably started when from the peak (~2600 alliance raiders logged in one reset) the 8/10 guilds couldnāt progress any further (before the nerfs were announced). That coupled with the release of the new FFXIV expansion and the release of New World and then SoM they just decided to quit (some big guild names died as well). Alliance is now down to 1850 raiders last reset. Horde faced the same issues but because they went to <1000 the dead situation there was even worse so then horde made a post upon the free transfer announcement (where ZT wasnāt a part of) on Reddit and the forums. Of course Blizzard didnāt listen so then horde wanted to leave. Then Praxis also made this post like over a week ago and now some alliance want to leave as well.
Hope I summarized that chain of events accurately enough.
(Praxis has toyed with the idea of transfering earlier for recruitment reasons, but back then still changed their mind, now they probably wonāt because the realm is dying for real)
(also guilds that did survive of course got new inflow from the guilds that died and a lot went to 9/10 or 10/10 by now even without the nerfs that are coming from 14th december)
Our guild seems to be on tentative āfor now we endureā, but we have more or less agreed the horde is as good as dead. Without Praxisā three teams (and I doubt every single Praxis player will move) there are still 3 or 4 serious raiding guilds left with more than one team each (Go Again, monkey wrench, Tryheart, Standard Procedure, us in Exile), and a lot of casual ones. AH still works, you can still even get dungeons in peak times reasonably well (as in within hour of actively forming a group). The Alliance of ZT yet lives. For now.
It also helps somewhat that a move from cozy small-ish RP-PvP to a PvP megaserver is much tougher one than from one PvP to another. Itās gonna be like entering clown world. So people are understandably reluctant to go while AH still works and there are raiding guilds still about.
Personally, if I go itās gonna be to Pyrewood, rolling PvP like good old days was the mistake I did for the last time in 2019. Tho to be honest itās been months since a horde attacked me in game, but I think it may be different on Firemaw.
But enough rambling. We keep on carrying on. Ad astra per aspera.
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