And i do have all the respect in the world for you if you dont agree with it, and just as im entitled to my opinion you are entitled to yours.
And yes to some extend it is about customizing’s ones OWN character, how you want it to look and fight.
Sense its possible as they have already done it with Dracthyr and lore wise there have already been examples of it i dont think it would be far fetched to see it possible.
If Worgens where not intended to be shapeshifters they should have not made them come from the human to start with in my opinion, so in the same regard i think they should be able to control themself as some other have shown to be able to do.
To be honest it could also be kind of a cool thing as a max level trait reward as well where you have now learned to master your curse even in the heat of battle, not just outside combat.
Making it both an reward you have to earn and as well an achievement reach.
Just like the Sylvans(dark fallen) skins/eye you can get on elf’s.
It sounds like you want to play Human, mate.
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Their whole deal is that their emotions, heart rate etc cause them to change hence why>combat>emotions/heart rate>change
There’s a whole quest in wod where a worgen lass gets stuck in worgen form after losing their love due to their grief. The whole form IS their race, human bit is a side flavor at this point.
Make a glyph like Boomkins have for casting in “human” form give it some kind of effect.
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It is mainly for role reason, explained in the racial zone of the worgen.
Normally, when you become cursed as a worgen, you lose all sanity and go full beast mode. After getting help from the druids (through the ritual of balance), the gilneans can “supress” effects of the curse and return temporarily to their human body with some effort.
The reason that during battle you always get turned into worgen form, was because during “stressful” times, the individuals cannot suppress the curse, and it materialize due to their emotions.
Tbh the one way I would like to see it as an option, would be if you take a big debuff (like 50% less damage dealt), while being human, for two reasons:
- As game play to have most players stick in the worgen form during battle.
- As a role nudge to show how worgens are “forcing” themselves when in human form, and how much more powerful worgen form is for them.
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Dont the named NPC’s fight in human form despite being Worgen?
Worgen can change into their human form yes. They also get forced into their worgen form during combat due to the curse.
Not really going to be able to suppress said curse while fighting world ending threats and what not (its also utterly stupid not to transform given the buffs the worgen form gives lorewise given its a druid form).
The ritual the Worgen of Gilneas (and some others if we wanna be nitpicky) went trough does not dispel the fury nor the bloodlust of the pack form, it just lessens it.
While you can potentially excuse it if a Worgen doesnt transform while fighting something trivial, you cant do so while fighting something that can easily kill you.
Edit: Also some individuals portray a great resistance to the curse, this also applies to Genn, and can shapeshift or control it even without the nelf ritual. Genn managed to suppress it pre balance ritual and could shapeshift but he too succumbed to the curse and auto transformed if angered. Genn still transforms if enraged even now (not to mention hes always in Worgen form during combat because it would be utterly stupid not to be as pointed out above). I am not even sure if he managed to do that without the potion since he did use it as well at some point and I would have to read the comic again.
HOWEVER the player does not fall into this category, we got consumed pretty fast after being cursed and only a flicker of our sanity or whatever you wanna call it was still intact if even at all as pointed out by Godfrey. We required a potion to temporarily come back to our senses and not maul everything in sight until the nelfes underwent the ritual with us. And not everybody survives the ritual. The Worgen curse is incredibly potent.
I haven’t read the thread cause that’s too cumbersome, and I don’t know anything about worgens.
But the way I see it worgens have a hot temper and therefore are stronger in worgen form, but with some drawback compared to human. Like maybe worgens are less protected.
Therefore there is a choice on how to approach the fight: cautiously or recklessly.
And that’s what the worgen race is about.
And that’s why you can choose which form you have, since it’s the entire point of the race.
Other than that: Sure you should be able to choose your form based on what you find aesthetically pleasing. The dragons should be able to do that too.
You may hate it but he is absolutely right. The option is there, why play worgen if you want to fight as a human ? Even if it was for some racials that are barely helpful, this makes no sense.
Don’t play a furry race and your problem will be solved.
This sounds an awful lot like those cheesy high elf threads, asking for them while they have the customization options with void elves already. Blizzard is never gonna do it for a group of people who are never satisfied and complain all day.
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Whole point of the race is that they can shapeshift.
Not sure how that’s unclear.
Indeed but whenever in fight or flight situation or angry, they go back to dog mode.
As said previously they are not druids, it’s a curse.
Play human.
I see. Well, I can accept that. That it’s a curse.
Still think that the whole point is the shapeshifting, not really the curse. Or that it should be like that, for fun. Don’t really understand your opposition.
The dragons should be like that too, that they can choose. Don’t know if they can.
And there should be points to the forms of course. Like you can’t fly if you’re a human, for example. Or glide.
But this is more like there’s no tradeoffs, it’s just that they’re werewolves.
Contempt. Just don’t understand you, the reason why.
Are you always like that? And are you always combative when you “tell how it is”?
If it’s a curse, what drawbacks and what benefits are there? Just that they change appearance? In that case it’s misrepresented, I think; it should be something with their gameplay.
Imagine rolling a race, who’s whole identity is a specific look, only to hate said race because of what?
Your counter arguments for those pointing out to play the race you can disguise as is laughable, at best, straight up stupid at worst.
I wish my visage form was a worgen instead of a hideous elf/human, damn.
But I’m not here to pick on you. I’m here to give you a permanent solution without irl money:
Illusions.
On AH.
Problem solved.
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The identity is shapeshifting, it has two looks. It’s a werewolf.
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Try again, and do better.
Maybe invest a braincell or two in the actual lore.
Its because of the curse that forces them into worgen form when they are threatened. That’s it. The only reason to pick worgen over a human is the druid class. I see no other reason.
For the Dracthyr, their form is a purely cosmetic one.
So play worgen and accept that you are a worgen or play human.
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My argument is this: Blizzard is not doing this because it would essentially mean that Worgen (and in that process also Dracthyr) would be able to choose freely and on the fly between 2 different aesthetics.
This is nice for players but bad for Blizzards $$$.
I would actually support your idea but Blizzard is probably not doing this because they’d lose some paid race changes.
So…yeah, that’s the argument I suppose.
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What’s the point of playing Worgen then? 