We’ve all seen the recent videos and discussion that people are claiming that midnight is more fun using a ground mount - to the point even blizzard waded in with a rare community post about on the discussion; while no solid plans to change anything were mentioned - this particular line is stuck with me
“While we don’t have any plans to restrict flight access meaningfully in the future, we’ll keep these discussions in mind as we continue building WoW. As always, keep the thoughts and ideas coming! Your feedback truly does shape what the game becomes in the future.”
Please, for the love of god, do not take the niche decision of a few players and revert us back 10+ years to where flight was a contentious issue - we remember when you tried to remove it entirely in WoD and we remember the god awful pathfinder achievements that we had to deal with; finally with dragonflight blizzard accepted the flying genie was out of the bottle and it could never go back in
I’m sure there’s no active plans to restrict flying, and I’m sure any changes would be well meaning - by all means add an achievement or title for doing loremaster of an expansion without a flying mount; but please, do not limit flying in any way, or god forbid add another maw where you couldn’t fly
If players are choosing to use a ground mount and it’s more fun for them - great! There is literally no reason to do ANYTHING, the current system is perfect as is
here also was no reason to prune all classes to oblivion because they already added one single button assistant and people just could not take active talents and take still strong but a bit less effective passive talents, guess what. Blizzard just decided to force everyone to play dumb version of their classes
On the contrary, I think everyone who feels as I do should make it very obviously known they do not want flying to be resticted in any way - Blizzard themselves said they want feedback on the matter
I’d for sure be very dismayed to return to the dark times of WoD through to shadowlands where at the start of an expansion our characters not only regressed in power but also in core abilities like flying.
For me being forced to the ground for an arbitrarily long period just left me feeling the “cold dead hand of the developer” in my gameplay.
That said while it is perfectly possible for anyone to choose to play the game on the ground - I do think there is some merit in the idea of offering some kind of incentive for folks who do - for example optional versions of the expansion Loremaster and Explorer achievements for doing the content without using a flying mount.
Please do limit flying for at least some time to experience the game from the ground. Why we as a players that don’t like flying can’t have that for even a week, month or whatever? “If you don’t like it, just use ground mounts”… ugh. Most blant and poor argument. It doesn’t work like that when everyone around is zooming with speed of light from quest to quest. It feels like they have a huge advantage over you and you are left behind by NOT chosing to fly. Also the zones are designed to have flying. Look at Taldraszus or even previous zones starting from wotlk and mop. You can’t do quests, mining/herb, collecting all treasures etc. I miss the danger in the world, the connection to the world, and the open world pvp, but now when you want to fight with someone he will just hop on a flying mount and disappear in 2 seconds leaving the scene. In one second you see someone, in another you don’t. PEAK MMO EXPERIENCE.. We are playing MMORPG or single player? I’m tired of this convinence for lazy people, going from point A to B in a 5 seconds. It makes also world way more boring and not important.
Addition. Many of you didn’t played New World at launch. Yes, that New World. The beginning of that game was one of the best moments I had in my 15+ years mmo’s carrer, and many people from NW were saying the same. You saw so many people in the world just running around you doing their stuff. Hearing chopping trees or mining in the forest, feeling the danger that someone from other faction can attack you at any time, or you are considering not pulling too many mobs, or just finding other path to survive. People were gathered to help each other constantly. You felt like you are living in this fantasy world. This is what mmo should be about.
So you want other people to have less fun and not be able to play the way they want to just because you think it’s more fun to play your way? That is like a genuinely deplorable point of view
Just the fact that flying existing doesn’t remove the possibility to enjoy the game from the ground; the reverse is not true
“But flying is an advantage”
YES, that’s why people like it - people talk about using ground mounts will restore the old game; firstly, that just isn’t what happened in WoD - people absolutely hated it, secondly - this isn’t classic, this is retail; it’s a different game, if you want the no flying experience where questing takes all day, you’re in luck, there are multiple classic server options
Left behind for what? There are only leveling, world quests and delves outside.
The leveling is so fast you’ll lose maximum a couple of hours if you do it on ground mount.
When they introduced this version of flying, we had DF as a playground which was great. As much as i critize that expansion - the map felt very well designed for flying as a main feature. TWW also was designed with flying only in mind. Midnight was designed 50/50 it seems. You can do Eversong and Zul’Aman without flying and it feels great. Everson is criminal to fly through. By the time i hit ZulAman i felt like i seen a slideshow of key locations - rather than having a cohesive feel for the map, the roads etc. We gained convenience and speed but definitely lost the immersion factor of the zones themselves.
I dont want for Blizz to restrict flying for people that got use to zooming around. Hell nawh. Maybe they can do something like war mode and phasing, opt in to play with people who only want ground mounts for the start of the expansion and design each zone with that in mind.
Now I can tell youwant other people to have less fun and not be able to play the way they want to just because you think it’s more fun to play your way? You have more “fun” flying and you are forcing it on others while the others can’t do it because of zone limitation and disadvantage.
So people flying actually spoiling is good, but when people that don’t want flying spoiling others it’s not. Gotta
I’m not a warmode enjoyer outside of faster leveling but no flying in warmode seems pretty appropriate to me since flying obviously negates the possibility of world PVP a lot
Problem with using a ground mount when people are flying, is you can’t compete with collecting resources and even killing mobs sometimes, for obvious reasons.
What you are even saying. From what observation? Yours?.. It is not possible. Just look at the treasure in Harandar where you need to fly up on the big mountains that you can’t go there without flying. Also the achivement that needs you to fly to the sky in the middle of the zone. And things like these are endless so stop gaslighting me please.
And as someone who always has been on PvP realms and now has WM on…I do not really get why people are so much into the danger of having a Rogue stab you in the back out of nowhere, a level 90 attacking you when you are already working on 7 mobs while levelling, and so forth.
I’m not talking about danger in only pvp, but with considering to pull more mobs or not, to pull elite mob or not, to find another path or try go this one etc.
