Please make 2H windfury shaman great again!

I started playing wow when it came out 2004 and I saw these fun looking specializations like enhancement shaman with 2-hander doing crazy windfury procs now and then. Yet I never got to play them because I didn’t make alts at that point and when I started 2h spec was gone.
Why I came back after many years was because it was the same beginning but better and I wanted to try these classes “as they should have been”. I don’t know if this is how SoD is considered by developers but I saw this like a new beginning that was meant to be fun in a way that saw the early wow mistakes and successes. One of these topics could be the specs that had short life back then in the early wow but didn’t get the chance to be a possibility. I’d really like to see shaman 2-hand spec to come back in some way. Add a stack of X requirement to the windfury proc or something but it would be fun to have it back :slight_smile:

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there’s a 2h rune in next phase

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One can only hope that rune is in a slot that DW won’t want to change anyway, because otherwise it would simply be griefing enhance as a whole, making sure that both 2h and DW remain bottom dps.

Gonna be real with you, shaman’s were never good dps.
Just play what you want to play and turn off the dps meter.

Dual wield existing, does not change anything about the viability of vanilla 2h.

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  1. 2H WF shaman was never great. It was a slot machine in PVP against people that didn’t know how to kite and it was garbage tier DPS.

  2. Blizzard already confirmed that they’re making runes for 2h shamans.

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I’m not a classic player but I don’t get this. We have a 2h talent in game right now. What more do you want?

Indeed, Shamans are a hybrid/support class, not a full blown dps class.

Shamans are there to make others stronger, and all we really need is to get that little extra bump in damage to make Enh viable and not a meme.

IF WF Weapon and Wild strikes can stack, I can see a 2h shami being usable.
The fact that runes comes, or presumably comes, in phase 2 must mean it wouldn’t work in P1(and we all know it doesn’t without WF weapon) or sits on a new slot.
Personally, I enjoyed enhance in BC, it significantly could increase raid dps with a single arms warri in it alone.

I did not like dual wield ever, and fists even less…

It’s not such a little bump that enhance needs. It is currently the worst melee dps by quite some margin. The other melee classes get big abilities and cooldowns by default, shamans don’t. Enhance gets an extra white attack on a 20s cooldown. The coming runes would need to be absolutely insane for us to even be middle of the pack, and that’s assuming the other classes get really bad runes.

I have hopes for it… Starsurge went from boring to Popping off with a simple number change.

Some runes like this:

One with the Elements:
While wielding a 2h Axe or Mace, your weapon is treated as having all weapon imbues at the same time.

Thunderstruck:
While Lightning Shield is active, you gain an additional 20% weapon damage as on-hit nature.

2H windfury shaman was never great to begin with. Go watch some 2004/5 raid geared enh shaman take on some level 55s with under 2k hp and let this meme spec rest.

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they didn’t give the shaman WF the killed the class .
no they give the druid the WF making it jack of not all trade only + ACE.

Wild strikes only is 1 additional strike, windfury is 2, and these dont stack, so no p2 will go back to shaman.

wow do we already know next phase runes?

wf totem gives only 1

2h rune was announced last moment during the last video on sod

Oh is it only shamans personal weapon enchant that does 2?

yes, the shaman totem gives only 1. shaman just gets shafted in sod.

Yes, no, maybe.

I’d say it comes down to the lack of WF and 5/5 Flurry right now. This phase is arguably the worst for Shamans, agreed.

However should still not discount the fact how many buffs a shaman brings to the table, especially in later phases. Shamans dps shouldn’t compete closely with other pure dps classes.

As for a 2H rune, there’s a few ways to do this, for example:

Rune of Windstrike (Gloves)
Strikes a enemy with a instant attack with a gust of wind from your weapon. Dealing x% weapon damage and boosts your attackspeed and movement speed by 30% for 5 seconds. 10 second cooldown.

Rune of Furious Winds (CD Rune, maybe new rune slot)
Infuses yourself with the fury of the wind, giving your next 5 attacks a increased chance to proc windfury. 2 Min CD

To me, 2H should be the very high, on demand burst of damage playstyle.

what buffs? druid WF is better than shaman WF

Shaman WF totem also increases the AP of the WF attack, with a 30% increase in said AP through talents.

At lvl 60, thats roughly 400 extra AP on the next attack.
For that to be 20%, it’s 2000 AP from the user of Druid WF