Keep it how it is please, I like seeing dragons running around same way I liked seeing moonkin running around before you made it possible to turn that off.
Welcome to the Worgen Club? Weâve been asking not to transform into Worgen every time we get into combat since the end of Cataclysm beta.
In that case why donât you just roll human? o_O
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Itâs the one reason I am not playing Dracthyr. The âdragon formâ doesnât to me even really look like a dragon, itâs more like a lizard worm or underdeveloped embryo in momma dragonâs womb. I feel like Iâm malnourished, not fully developed with enough nutrition in my life dragon form.
It reminds me of when everyone who had to play druid as Balance had to play a fat, ugly, looks like a guy wearing a chicken/owl costume at some low budge pizza chain, 2 snickers away from dying of diabetes about to end up on TLC âMy 600 pound lifeâ.
Obese Owl/chicken: âI tried everything, but I just canât lose the weightâ
So I donât know, 2022, I guess I shouldâve expected instead of getting a roided up male dragon form, that looks like he could snap a neck with two fingers, instead we get non-binary/gender-neutral-fluid, âbody type 1â.
So hopefully, they add a glyph for this. When you use dragon abilities you are outlined with some transparent, essence form that shows you are doing dragon abilities but never actually have to be a baby lizard.
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People like the playstyle, so they want to play it. Just the visual aspect isnât really there for them. All they ask for is to have an option that already has most of the assets done anyways. It is great that you do love both forms, but some people simply have a greater preference of one form over the other. I myself donât really know what is the problem that causes one to see this as an issue to tell others to simply not playâŚ
For me, dracthyr were always about the visage. Since they were announced, I was interested only in 2 things about them pretty much - visages and flying without mounts. The visages already have a ton of customizations and their assets are much up to date than those of the other races, which makes them highly preferable for many in this regard.
Also I have heard arguments that we are playing dragons, and that dragons tend to fight in their true form. I do like what HotS did with Alexstrasza here to be honest. While for her it is only for some time that she is in her true form, otherwise staying in visage, we could be in visage (if the option is selected, others could remain dracthyr) most of the time and turn into the true form only when we are doing breath abilities and soar. Otherwise everything should be doable in visage even without wings, just like we can glide in the form.
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So? Guardian druid is locked behind a bear, feral behind a cat, etc.
You have no choice there either. I would love to have arcane missiles on my hunter but guess what?
Itâs locked behind arcane mage.
Deal with it.
Yup, their wings look weird especially when standing still or running.
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Yeah, Blizzard showed them to us in their tier sets, dragon form included. Yet only have belt and shoulders available. Itâs such a weird design choice I can only assume they ran out of time.
Fingers crossed they introduce it in a patch. Itâs really limiting, and youâd think the tier set thatâs specifically designed for evoker would at least show up.
Thing is that these are evoker abilities on evoker. Living flame already works for instance. There are more ways to make this accessible so that people can find greater visual enjoyment without much additional work being needed to put into animations and so on. If breath abilities are the only ones that truly force the dracthyr, I think that everyone would be happy, really.
Really unnecessary. 
Dont bark at that specific tree. I have been arguing about making Shadowform for Priest and Chickenform for Balancedruid optional for like 15 years now. It never happened. You can either accept that or choose another class.
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Because I enjoy having the option of being a Worgen but Iâd like to be able to control it myself just like you should according to lore, and not turn just because someone looks at you wrong?
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More options wouldnât hurt anyone. Unleash the non-lizard-identifying dracthyr.
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My point being that if you dislike the aesthetic of your cat or bear form, you have alternate options. You can choose a different race that has forms that are more suited to your tastes. If you dislike moonkin, you can just glyph it away. If you find the idea of forms so unappealing enitrely you can play a warrior which functions the same as bear form, or a rogue that functions the same as cat form, etc. The point being: you have options.
There is no class alternative for Evoker. There is no race alternative for the Dracthyr. There is no glyphing away the problem.
There are no options.
If you feel so hard done by the idea of forms being mandatory, you should understand especially why the Dracthyr is the worst incarnation of all of them. I really donât understand why so many players always resort to âYeah well, you think you have it bad? I HAVE IT WORSE! So you should just suck it up!â
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You can do exactly the same with Dracthyr - Change the Dracthyr apperance. It will still be a Dracthyr, like a bear is still a bear, or a cat is still a cat. And btw, it took a decade or more before druids got to change their bear/cat a bit. Moonkin you can still not change, unless that changed while I was away in Shadowlands.
As for balance, you get two forms to pick between. Astral form, which makes sense, and Moonkin. They are both forms. Astral form is just more similar to Shadow form, which shadow priests are stuck in.
Also, having it worse? No, itâs just the same. Difference is I do not mind Blizzardâs design choices regarding the classes and races affected by it. It makes sense enough to me, and itâs a part of that class/raceâs design(worgen included).
I was also one of those who wanted a tinker class with a tank spec where you are forced into being in a mech while tanking.
Overall the forced forms for certain specs and classes makes sense to me and offer diversity. If you donât like these design choices, it doesnât mean they are bad choices. I donât always agree with Blizzard either, but that doesnât make me right.
No, Dracthyr still doesnât seem any different to the other forced forms for classes, races and specs as far as I am conserened. I think you might just have a different fantasy idea of the class/race than Blizzard. Personally I even considered maining Evoker this expansion - played it on the beta. Then again, having mained druid since 2006/2007 I guess I am just used to forced forms.
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But seriously? How on earth are there comparable? Their energy/rage bar? Then you might aswell replace your evoker with another caster. Thatâs how comparable it is.
Yes, I have both rogue and warrior too.
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Honestly, just give us the option to Transmog both forms seperately.
I absolutely love Evoker and I kinda dig their appearance, their Humanoid form most and the Dracthyr form Iâm okay with too. I also am alright with the options of the âarmorâ, but to find a Mog that works both on forms is such a massive pain.
Especially since the scale color of the Dracthyr form has to somewhat match too, the avalible pieces of shoulder gear are VERY limited. Add to that the Armor you can choose in Dracthyr form has set colors with only works with maybe 0.5% of the shoulders avalible.
So in Humanoid form I have to turn off the shoulderpads which look kinda weird. Following that, you have to be extremely careful with the belt aswell because that can be a make or break for a mog, but with some of them showing in Dracthyr form, I tore my hair outâŚ
Also tabards look great in the game on a character when the mog fits, but you can 100% not use any freaking tabards because they also show on Dracthyr form, causing the armor you chose before look horrendousâŚ
So PLEASE just either disable mogable pieces in Dracthyr form entirely or let us mog them seperately.
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Youâre either arguing in bad faith, or you are so impossibly dense that light actually bends around you.
Yes you can customise a Dracthyr but it will always be a Dracthyr. While they might function identically, the aesthetic of a KulâTiran druid form vs a Tauren druid form are absolutely worlds apart, on top of the fact that theyâre entirely different races. So you can play the same thing, but it can look completely different. With Dracthyr your options are limited to the coat of paint and a bit of jewellery, which are things all druids can also customise, as well as their additional form and racial options. You see the recurring thing? Druids have options.
Iâm not sure what your hypothetical about tinkers has to do with anything, since I didnât ask and itâs completely irrelevant.
And as for your final point? I donât think I do have vastly different ideas from Blizzard on this. Time and again theyâve caved in to offering players more options, not less, in terms of what race can be what class and in terms of customisation. Evoker is the only class in the game that is locked to a singular race. Itâs the first and only WoWâs near 20 year history.
Yeah, that and the combo points might have something to do with it. No other caster can empower their abilities in the same way that an Evoker can. But your feral druid will absolutely build up/spend combo points and energy in the same sort of way as a rogue does. A guardian druid will use their rage on abilities that function the same as prot warrior, etc. The only druid form that has a unique playstyle is balance, and again, that has more customisation options in terms of their form than Dracthyr.
The only option I can accept by assuming Visage to be the standard form is forcing you to change into Dracthyr for empowered spells or any spells that force you to increase in speed to use your wings and 1s after being cast or after the effect fades, gets you back to your Visage form.
I said this in the other thread.
But please just get rid of the Ugly Visage form. Itâs horrible. Dracthyr form only please.
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You are fairly new to WoW I take it? Judging by this post you seem to be lacking a whole lot of history on the classes, and itâs very surprising that you find warrior and guardian comparable to play, and rogue and feral. They do not feel the same in that sense. Donât get me started on how modern the various powerbars of classes are, but instead every class now has the same spells with slightly different adjustments on how they work, instead of sharing power source as in the past(mana). Hence my comment about playing any other caster instead of evoker if you are comparing feral to rogue and guardian to warrior.
I do not disagree that it would have been nice with more races being able to be evokers, or their mogs being normal. I do however think it would still have been better than any race could be evoker, but that all still transform into dracthyr like now. That was the only thought I had on the beta around their apperance. Mostly because I do find their current visage form very ugly, so I was kinda wishing to be something else than that catface human they are now. Was my gripe with it. Dragons pick random races as their visage forms, like e.g. Chromie being a gnome. I know dracthyr arenât actual dragons, but that makes more sense to me than them being in their visage form during combat.
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the whole point of being one is dragon form, nobody wants to see that horribly designed Elton John rip off form. You look like someone from deviant art designed you and they really do not fit WOW at all. It is like the team went ok how can we be super inclusive so just threw everything at it without any design supervision.
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