Please NEVER do this again

Speak for yourself.

I’m genuinely confused… What kind of activity you would propose should reward the essences? World Quests? Or you prefer they are given for free?

Both a PvE and PvP way

There is either PvE or PvP essences to be acquired and they are more than enough for casual+ (m10s, heroic, couple of mythic bosses) game. They are pretty easy to obtain too! So, if you don’t want to do a certain content, you are still fine.

Now if you want to push for end game content, then yes, you have to put the required effort. That is how it works. You cannot expect to have the same equipment a mythic raider or a 2.4k rated player has with minimum effort.

I am a Hall of Fame Raider and i still support what i said. And i was only required to farm the Honor one thank god (pre nerf). And that one was neither fun nor entertaining. Basically sit afk in any epic BG and let the honor flow in via the passive /min honor gain. At least make it: Win X BGs and be done with it. That way i would at least be required to win, to play and to actually care. For honor farming quick losses may even be quicker so why bother

My GM even utterly refused to farm the Honor one again on his alt that he played for Azshara despite it being an upgrade and nobody blamed him for choosing so.

Instead of Honor one could have been able to buy it with residiuum (ofc an acceptable amount and not like 10k-20k total). That way i would have found a better way to spend it than solely on the casino since the 200k was too far away to even bother for the miniuscul upgrade.

The thing I agree with is these essences should have been account wide. Having to grind on each and every toon is too much.

And I didn’t, and I think people, who do not like PvP should simply leave it be because those essences are optional. Or at least on level where majority of forum posters delve in, including myself. :stuck_out_tongue:

Would be perfectly fine if they were account bound but doing that massive grind for multiple characters… No way

You really don’t need BiS on every alt. On my hunter I’m just settling for the easy to obtain essences. That’s a 700 dps sim difference. Who cares about that?

You do if since 14x700 dps is a lot of dps

It’s an alt. If I’m in need of more dps I just switch to my main. If I want my alt to do more dps I do the grind.

I don’t understand the problem. It’s like people complaining they actually have to put time into their characters to make them good.

I dont mind putting time in. Its just a problem doing the same 100 hour grind over and over again is dull as f. Make essences account bound.

How many raid-ready alts are you trying to maintain?

Finding 2 more prime real estate keybindings is my issue :smiley:

3 usually but have only 2 now cuz i refuse a third

My guild is casual - both schedule and progress wise and perhaps even attitude (or perhaps mainly due to attitude towards game) and most of us have 1-3 raid ready alts. No one forces us. We are casual afterall, there’s no guild rule to have alts like the most progressive guilds do, but we feel in EP especially there are problem areas, where class plays a lot more role than you’d imagine.

Also maintaining several alts as a raider offers extra for the player, master two or more classes instead one.

You cannot judge anyone for wanting to give their best in group content and while my posts above said I for a principle did not get PvP essence and it is probably low of me since my guild did RBGS for them, but I was a bit annoyed due to my role “why a pve tank, who is completely nerfed down and gimped on PvP should bother if even developer clearly hints I shouldn’t”

However I have always supported one thing - best PvP gear should come form PvP (i.e. trinkets, wapons etc) and best PvE things should come form PvE. PvPrs shouldn’t need to do raids and raiders shouldn’t need to do PvP. There should always be lures, yes. To introduce different aspects of the game, but those lures shouldn’t feel forced. i thought they learned form the MoP-cloak quest, where many people hated it and were vocal about it, but seems Blizzards memory is very short.

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