Please revert the paladin changes

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First of all I’m sorry I don’t post on my paladin, I can’t figure it out how to change it. This is the only character that appears on the character selecting screen here on the forums.

Now about the 11.0.5 paladin talent tree:

I’m 628.5 ilvl with 4/8M and 2978 io.

I am sim’ing around 130k less on single target, with the “latest” sim option in Raidbots. This is way more than a 3% nerf. The 4% haste loss hits really hard. The stats are messed up now. I chose 2x myth track items in the past weeks (a neck and a ring), which are now 639. I can’t just change them. Not to mention it costs a lot of gold to socket, enchant and gem them. I chose those items because I didn’t have any other better option, and they were sim’ing high before the patch, they were supposedly BIS too.

I thought that updating the class talent tree was supposed to be a good thing. Please give us back the 4% haste somehow and revert the CDR changes.

In high keys (doing 13s atm) every Frost DK, Assa Rogues, Shamans and most Mages were already top’ing us in AOE and ST too. But now it’s even worse. I wanted to stick to Retribution since I really like the playstyle, but I feel very forced at this point to reroll to a meta spec.

I just can’t get myself to enjoy this new patch. I became uninterested in the Anniversary event. My class is the first window of how I view the game. I repeat, I thought the talent tree reworks were supposed to be a good thing.

And I’m pretty sure that Holy gets a nerf too with this update, and maybe even Protection.

This surely wasn’t supposed to happen. Please add back the 4% haste and revert the change to CDR. Or just increase the throughput.

I just want to close this post by saying that I don’t want a big buff, I don’t necessarily want to be more powerful than I’ve been (tho the listed meta specs were still overpowering us), I just want to get back where I was before and be relevant in high keys again. Thank you!

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I saw the same logging on
Really weird to have logged off with 25% in haste and mastery and to now log on and see both stats at a meager 20%
I had to check wether I had unequipped gear

This is the worst I’ve felt after any overhaul for prot paladin and I was there hissing and spitting when they initially broke one of the more popular builds at the start of DF

Either give us talents back with the flat stat boosts by working them in existing talents to not bloat our tree up again or rework how we scale with stats

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Just reading your post gives me a headache and smh feeling.
So the game is to a point where people actually pull out stats with % this and millisecond that ?
Blizzard should ban the use of add-ons in the game so people would actually play it rather than engineer it

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You click on your character picture in top right corner .the place where it shows the number for notifications highlighted in blue color .clicking on it once will bring you certain things .scrolling way down you will see change character option at last .

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Thank you! I’ve tried there before, but this is the only character that appears. I’m stuck on the classic part somehow, instead of retail. Do you happen to know how can I switch it? I posted on other characters in the past. But now nothing appears from retail. Thank you in advance!

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All addons should be banned in wow.

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Secondary stats are displayed in the character screen; no addons involved.

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nah. Prot is OP now so good riddance. Just like prot warrior is OP so their dps specs are mid. Just like havoc is mid while vdh is the epitome of meh.

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I was going to moan about how Wow has come to the point where people will now whine about anything and everything like absolute babies. But then I remembered it’s probably always been like that.

I mean, seriously! Come on. Your paladin has a little bit less stats and your wanky-thanky dps is nerfed a bit. So you feel your ineffective and inadequate as a result, and go bleating to the forums like the world is ending.

Real world issues!

I play a Paladin and just smack my head on the keyboard while I’m necking wine like a teacher, and banging one out while watching the telly. The bad guys still drop and give me loot. Quests still get done. It doesn’t take 15 months to murder a boar so who actually gives a … erm, stuff?

Get a grip. Go get some coffee. Play the game and stop moaning about anything and everything just 'cause mummy never hugged you.

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That’s real neato. Now for people that play a little beyond questing. it is now harder to get into groups.

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But that’s a people issue, not the game. People are the ones who decide that you can’t join their group because you’re not powerful enough, or some other rubbish, when you’re probably better geared than them, and have done that content more often.

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I was worried initially but now later on I know that CD’s to HP generation were reduced more then the 5% haste decrease would’ve given me cd reduction for so yeah
Its probably not as bad but we’ll see when I get online ingame

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Delete cookies

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So you invested into other stats than* haste for your paladin, and now the stat isn’t meta anymore, because they changed a talent, which was giving you haste before. It sucks, but that happens after every rework.

Your issue is that recrafting, gemming, etc. is too expensive gold-wise, else it wouldn’t be an issue to swap stats around a bit…

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If it was meta before, now with the nerf, the need for much more Haste is even more excurbarated. Esp to a Prot Paladin.

On my Prot Warr at least i have the option to sustain my block -indef- by dumping a haste talent for shieldblock-adding-seconds to block.

There is no such for Prot Pal

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That didn’t work, and it’s doing the same in other browser. Thanks tho!

Best stat was Mastery anyway, then Haste. I didn’t invest in haste but tried to keep it around 20%.

Reworks with negative outcome shouldn’t happen during the season.

That’s too little to juggle around with, compared to how much secondary stats are items offering, especially rings and necklace. I already replaced a 619 ring with another, but I still sim more than 100k lower than last week.

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Sry I typed the opposite by accident of what I thought. I meant you didn’t invest into haste, because you got the haste from the talent

A lot of people crafted necks/rings. Thought u were one of them. Yeah, that sucks, idk. That’s just how it goes after a rework.

Maybe we should get stat reforging back? That’d be awesome actually.

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Yeah, it would’ve been nice to just re-roll the stats on 636 rings and neck.

Unfortunately won’t happen anytime soon.

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Yeah bro, I don’t wanna be disrespectful or dismissive, but there is no way they’d revert a class rework, because some high end players invested into the wrong stat distribution. Though I think it really sucks it happened.

With so many class reworks happening all the time, we should 100% be getting stat reforge to avoid that in the future

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I thought prot pally was like mid tier at best prenerf.
They also slapped blood dk with a significant nerf that was aimed at frost it seems.
Might mean less tanks.
I won’t stop but others might :man_shrugging:t3:

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