I ‘earned’ the allied races, but I do not see the importance of earning a race of all things !
New and returning players should be able to choose what they like the look of, which is fine by me if it helps them enjoy playing the game and possibly stick with it.
It would be lovely if the story questlines for these races could be available to all players as optional content to complete, for those that want to know who they are and their place in the world and choice of faction.
For completing this they could get a race lore title and a couple of cosmetic RP transmog items. (Those who have completed it previously can get it automatically).
GW2 lets you pick a race and then offers optional ? stories while levelling which is logical and makes sense for new players.
First of all i play since mists of pandaria… and back then i had to level to 90 without any friends had to learn it all alone and with a bit of help of google…
Secondly Now they only have to level like what 1/2 zones tops that is zuldazar and voldun and they can already do the allied race quest to unlock them…
I 100% believe people are just becoming lazy and do no longer wanna put effort into a game they just wanna have some sort of sandbox were they can do whatever they want.
These new players you talk about come to play a collector’s game and a mmorpg. were we just like in diablo as an example collect better gear… or run old raids for transmogs or mounts. because almost everyone gets streamlined into doing m+ raids or pvp… and what do we do there we get better gear by killing the npc’s… my point to all this it all serves a purpose.
getting an allied race also serves a purpose you get to know the story of that allied race just like you get in the starting zones of all the old races that you can play from level 1.
That may be, but then players should get either a free character race change or a coupon for 50%-off when unlocking an allied race so they can change their main characters to an allied race if they wish to do so.
For example, one of my friends wants to try out WoW. The only race that is interesting to him so far are the Lightforged Draenei (as Rouge with Dragonflight). So that means he has to wait til Dragonflight comes out, then he has to level a Rouge over several weeks, grind sunset gear, do a very tedious, stupid long achievement grind for the entire Argus story, do then the Quest Line for the Lightforged Draenei. Just to be then allowed to make a new character or pay money to change race.
I am not rich, but even I would rather pay a 30€ Allied Race upgrade (similar to Elder Scrolls Online’s “Every Race, every Alliance” upgrade), just so I can play what I want from the start without having a tedious grind to do that breaks the potential fun in the first place for some players.
I personally never understood why blizzard needs to ask so much money for a race change what in different games is free… but it could be a solution yes if they made the race change free for everyone
It has nothing to do with being lazy. It has to do with the fact that new players shouldn’t spend a lot of time in dead zones just to play as the desired race. New players in dead zones will not fall in love with wow.
Here’s how it will work for a new player. He will create a character and likes to play as Vulpera. He can’t, he’ll google how to. He’ll start with a character he doesn’t enjoy, go through tutorial, then go and spend weeks on some dead zone alone. Keep in mind this is a new player, with everything being new to him. When you did it it was current content with plenty of players around. He will be alone. The experience is vastly different.
It should not have been a grind in the first place.
The main selling point of RPGs is to build a character appealing to your tastes. What they should have done was to leave the unlock, but make it so that it unlocks more customization options for them, and with that give players the option to delve deeper into the lore of their respective race more. This could have also been used as a way to unlock the heritage armor of the race.
Just because we had to do the ‘grind’, which those who were playing BFA from the start (and Legion) had already had unlocked by the time allied races were added, does not mean that it was a good idea.
Locking transmog and customization behind quest and whatnot? Fine. It is the incentive to go and do those old quests for the customization options.
Locking an entire race behind a grind? Not even in free to play games I see it as acceptable. Either make it available from the get go, or give people a race change once they unlock any of the allied races. That would atleast allow people to pre-plan their class for the race they want to play, and not feel like the original character they leveled up was a complete waste of time.
As I said to Heramaar this could be a solution you still play for them to unlock them and keep the purpose in the game of doing things the incentive as you called it. sad thing is blizzard has for some weird reason put a big paycheck wall behind a race change.
I did read it and it is not the same thing at all. Even if you didn’t have any friends it was still current content for everyone. You were playing alongside other players. Friends or not it was a MMO experience for you. Imagine when you started how it would have been if there was no one around you for 3 weeks. Would you have still stuck around?
Most people back then were in pandaria I was not and maybe there were a few players you ran into every now and then but i dont talk to every stranger wow player i see…
And i actually can imagine how it is being alone for 3 weeks what has 0 to do with the allied races + the tutorial in this game is pretty hand holdy for how to move your character how to accept quests they even put in models of the creatures you need to kill when you accept a quest these days… Besides you have like i dont know how many choices yet you need to pick the one you need to do extra stuff for
well, i quitted the game leveling my first char during WoD. I never got into Draenor… The legion cinematic got me back in half a year later. It was a very lonely adventure. Not something i was looking for when i started this game.
Have you been playing the same game then or did you start in shadowlands?
Because i remember doing world quests for reputation with those factions to eventually be able to do the allied race unlock quest chain.
You litterly proved my point already you did grind the reputation…
Just as all others who did the content back then… someone else in this thread told me you gained it passively but that is simply not true.
You needed revered for flying, you needed exalted for class hall items, you needed exalted for paragon mounts ect.
Anyone who played legion had reps at exalted way before allied races were even announced.
