Backing out now when i’ve called you on your bullcrap?
Between 25k and 30k. The farm required a group. There were other raw gold farms as well. Eg, there is one right now in Gorgrond, also way more than 10k IIRC (or maybe it has been nerfed already, didn’t pay attention).
This seems to be exactly the reason Blizzard are doing the change. Sold tokens would easily offset the loss of multiboxer subs.
thanks for clarifying that this is a completly selfish way to look at it and you are not trying to solve the entire thing as a whole, just make it better for yourself
what an absolute 
If you try to solve an issue atleast make sure you don’t do it from a selfish perspective, you are making a clown out of yourself. This is like talking to Gollum who is fighting over his personalities.
Multiboxers bad, they ruin the economy for themselves!
Ban them, i want the economy for myself!
well guess what, what i explained above how easy it is to farm herbs without any software, most multiboxers will do it. I posted it in several multiboxer discords just so new multiboxers are aware of it. 
Dude, you’re talking about 4 x 4 farms.
We were talking about solo farming raw gold. Not group farming.
Why not just make a dedicated classic/retail multi-boxing server (that cant commune in any way with other servers (to stop gold exporting/exploiting)), then ban multi-boxing as planned on all regular servers (give multi-boxers free character migrations to this server).
You have lots of multi-boxers that are doing it for fun and not ruining others game play (i.e. myself in classic, doing it for the challenge of completing dungeons solo - people don’t even see me in-game bar me running into a dungeon - the money I made in dungeon lvling 5 chars, paid for raiding on my main).
MB has been ruined by the few multi-boxers/cheats, not the many, so at least give people a legitimate way to continue to credit Blizzard with subscription money.
You have just pushed many legitimate multi-boxers to private servers or quitting, that is just bad business.
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Any issue to solve is for a selfish reason. Maybe when you grow up you’ll understand that.
Be it for monetary personal gain or for your own personal satisfaction.
Blizz decided on the change and it’s a good one. You can take your (hard earned) gold and retire old man.
yes but I wanted to get the go ahead from blizzard themselves and wanted to make sure I wouldn’t be banned because of false reports. Also wanted it for the forums as there is lots of people who think what I do is banned.
Yes, I am talking about group farms, correct. So what? Dhobban said to you that you could have made 25k farming old content for less than 1 hour. You restricted that to raw gold. I am not sure why, but OK, even restricting to raw gold, you could have made 25k farming old content in the mentioned time. Yes, if you restrict it further to “raw gold and also solo”, the limit will go down and will perhaps be less than 25k. More than 10k that you cite, but less than 25k. But I don’t understand why this is relevant, because Dhobban’s point didn’t have any of the two restrictions you imposed. Unless I am misunderstanding something.
I will be fine playing the AH with +150M gold but thank you.
I wish u the same, enjoy your herb gathering with one account! Just make sure that people with 100s of millions don’t control markets on your realm.
If you look up more you can see that the restrictions were imposed by the other fellow i was arguing with.
And do tell, what solo farming raw gold is more than 10k but less than 25k?
Also tell me why i should leave the gathering up for multiboxers and not make 25k per hour like i used to farming herbs?
Is gathering locked to multiboxers? Should it be? Why shouldn’t the average player be able to gather and make 25k per hour?
Because i see you guys are here trying to convince me that i should settle for less than i used to make before multiboxers took over, and yes, they did increase a lot in number over this expac.
Yes man, go ahead and buy my herbs and resell them higher.
And then make sure to underbid everything and maybe lower the price of herbs once you’ve bought the market.
I’m sure that’s what you’ll do out of the goodness of your heart to help the poor raiders who need to have their pots and flasks at a lower price.
Yeah, and guess why?
Its called an MMORPG for a reason.
If you get yourself 3/4 accounts to just play by yourself in such an environment, thats just a bit weird.
Many multiboxers seem to use that argument: but that way i can play this game “solo” guess what its not a singleplayer game.
Furthermore, they dont need to refund anything policy change or not. You are still responsible for your own purchases and decisions.
And you decided to take a risk on something and you should atleast understand it was always possible for this to happen and you took the risk anyway.
And dont reply with: but i play like this for x years so thats why i took the risk.
Yeah, and every now and then people get caught driving for years without a driver’s license. Yet they still get a fine even tho it was “fine” all those years they drove around without a license.
The policy change is a good one and a needed one to get the game in a better shape at some points. (Which are all mentioned already)
Fair enough, maybe the restrictions were there from the beginning, it’s true that I didn’t read previous posts between you two.
HFC on all difficulties isn’t a terribly efficient farm, especially if you don’t have an option to skip the first several bosses. IIRC, BRF was a better gold/hour right off the bat and various places mid-Suramar were better than 10k even solo (although more boring).
Regarding multiboxers, I am not against you making 25k gold farming herbs. I just think multiboxers aren’t the obstacle, bots are.
BRF was about 9kish gold on all difficulties, but i think it might have taken me just below 1h to finish all… the Heart of the Mountain boss was always annoyingly long to finish.
Well those bots also use multiboxing to accomplish this… in this case, multiboxing software like the one we’re talking about.
So yes, this will affect them too.
Look, I think we’ve been over that already, so sorry if I will repeat myself, but - bots use different software. Some botters might also bot using this software, as an option, but it is an inessential option. Take it away and those few bots who were using it will just switch back to regular botting software.
Anyway, I think I already said that up above, leaving it in case I haven’t.
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It’s a pretty good change by Blizzard. Now the multiboxers who farmed herbs will have to manually switch and click, switch and click, switch and click, switch and click, switch and click, switch and click, switch and click, switch and click, switch and click, switch and click… and switch back to main.
Isn’t it a glorious change? 
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Yes, Baltic should be fine, it’s how used to play mine, although I did use a broadcaster for world quests only. I don’t PVP and I manually farm nodes when I need mats. My broadcasting was simple. Mount, Follow, assist, and Shoot. Macros on all three to make it easier.
But guess what, with the mindset of 90% of the ppl here, you will be reported for cheating more times than you can count if they see you on follow. They will all assume you are using third party and just flag and report because they can. Ignorance at it’s best.
It will be hard for “normal” multi boxers to just get on with it.
Problem is, the people this is meant to deter, will just find a way around it, they will just have hardware setups instead of Software, the problem will take a small lull, and be back in no time, probably not as much in a PvP aspect but PvE for sure.
Botters and exploiters will always find a way.
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In fact, as I was writing this, the wife is in Drustvar doing WQ’s and there are 8 boomkins standing in a circle, round-robin spamming the piggies.
Can Clearly see they are not broadcasting, but taking turns instead, yay for banning multi-boxing software right…?
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Take my advice do not make generalisations when you have no idea about the person concerned or the issue involved. How I play is of no concern to you. I paid for my accounts, I have took no part in any botting activities, nor do I agree with anyone using them. I certainly do not have to justify myself missinformed individuals.
As I have stated many times now, I do not have a problem with the policy change. My concern was that I have ordered extra copies of shadowland as well paid for account time. I did however, express that I think the change is short sighted as it will be circumvented very easily, but not by myself.
However my issue is solved as Blizz has accepted that a refund is in order and have even added the existing time from my second account to my main account. I now do not make use of two accounts as it is pointless, if you are sticking to the policy change.
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