As many of us here, i too got banned for exploiting potion stack. Now first of all let me get this out of the way. Ban is deserved, i knew what i was doing was exploit, and still went with it. No issues here.
But here are couple of points to why this happened and what will happen for some of us.
1 - Let’s talk why so many of us took risk to exploit potion stack even tho, it was clearly an exploit. New races just came out, they always start at lvl 20, so in order to jump straight in to new content you would have to either race change or level boost (cash shop). Or level normal way, as it’s intended. But problem is, leveling atm is straight up boring. We are in the position where leveling is not slow enough or quick enough, it’s just in the middle. If it was overall slower, you would have more people around low lvl’s to interact with, if it was quicker, you could get to end content quicker to have people, to interact with. But as it is right now, you simply will not be able to find anyone to interact with in open world/after dungeon etc. Hence boring. So no wonder people want to skip this process, by INGAME means without paying moneys.
2 - Now, some of us, after getting ban for this exploit will leave game, not many, mind you, we are still dumb enough to pay for game that has non existent content. At least, i can talk for myself, as it’s weekends, i wanted to spend time gearing new alt, but what will happen is, i’ll just jump other game, and then starting new week i might not even come back to wow, weekdays are for work/girlfriend/friends etc., and drive to play is way smaller, after getting ban. Hence, most likely i will quit, just another excuse to do so.
3 - Now biggest point i want to make, is fact that… first of all, in order to stack absurd amount of potions, you had to play game anyways, to farm for badges, so it’s your “paying and playing customers” who are affected most. Even if you grinded for mount before and decided to spend on potions instead, while exploit is active, you would still stay and play game for another month, to re farm missed badges. These bans dont really make sense, as they are here just to show us, that you CAN get banned for exploit, but game itself atm, just has no content to play, so can you really afford to ban people for such a small gain, just for the sake of giving out a ban?
I really hope bfa will come close, to what legion was in last patches, but as of now, it’s not even close. And after getting ban, for the weekends, might as well unsub for time being and hope game gets better, midsummer.
Have a good one, boys.
This is just a farce all around.
I agree the ban is warranted but people have to climb through a bazillion levels of completely unattractive content, I can’t say I blame them for taking advantage. All in all its just poor all round.
I do aggree wow has to many levels for the moment, but exploiting aint the right way to go arround it, I do feel pruning of levels is needed, atleast down to 80-90 or so, that would make more sence I feel.
I’m not saying exploiting is right thing to do, hence i dont complain about getting banned personally, it’s understandable. But, point im trying to make, is after playing this game since 2010, this is first time i exploited, simply because, game is not playable through 20-100, by that i mean, there is nothing to do, as far as mmo goes, it’s solo content, prompt. Hence, exploited and got banned.
I do aggree about the levels as I said, I know my self that once I ding 60 or so I start to feel fatique until I hit 90 and go to wod, where it again goes fast, leveling now feels odd, like you stalling midway for no apparent reason at all, and playing a full dps class it gets realy bad, due to long ques for anything.
You exploited you got banned that’s how it works, you deserved the ban.
IRL you can print money, fake or real, if you get caught you go to jail, that’s the same thing.
That’s exactly what i said tho. I’m not arguing over getting ban, it’s deserved. Just saying, to why it’s happened, and how stupid overall it is in this specific situation.
Dakkazi pretty much sums up my opinion.
You didn’t want to do the “grunt work” and wanted a faster-cheaper-not so legitimate way out and got caught. It doesnt matter that lvling is a bore, grindfest…what ever you want to call it.
We all have to do stuff which we hate. Be it M+s for the 410 chest(a raider cant pass on that one), unclocking alied races and etc…yet we just swallow it and get it done…
I’ll stop repeating, from now on, saying that i fully agree with ban. Exploit is exploit, but dont get me wrong, it’s mmo, yet 20-100 is solo game, doing grunt work is fair, playing mmo solo, during specific level brackets is different thing. Cheerio
I’ve read similar things like this.
I used it because… “Leveling is boring”, “game is bad”, “takes too long” and so on, and so on.
Then why do you level yet another char? You don’t seem to enjoy it, want to speed it up till the limit…to play non-existing end content (your words).
Stop playing. These are not explanations, these are poor excuses (even though I partly agree).
You are dancing around the argument. You agree with the ban but you also claim that it was “for the right reasons”.
Applying your logic to the money printing example:
“Yes. I printed the money and I fully understand that I broke the law. But I did to feed my 5 children and I needed the money badly”.
I am sorry but the judge wont care about your reasons(enough to let your go. Might reduce the sentence but thats it).
In short: you broke the rules, got punished. Your motivations as to WHY you did it…sadly matters little in Blizz’s eyes.
Ok, maybe when i said game has no content, it’s not exactly true, there is certain amount of content, but it’s max level only. At the end of the day it’s mmo, and further our lvl cap is raising, more and more you play solo, in a game that is all about social interactions. I would not mind leveling, if it was slower, so i have people to play with, or i’d skip to end game, so once again, i’d have people to play with.
Heres some context for you:
At the start of wod there was a bugged treasure, you could sit in one place and go from 1 to 100 in 7 hours just repeatedly clicking this one box. They fixed it and there was no bans.
They just made it so you couldn’t interact with the treasure, i think its still like it to this day. Know the difference between then and now? You messed with their new feature.
If there wasnt any allied race, this would have been swept under the rug but you took a chance and got banned. Sucks but it is what it is.
You cant really compare money example and skipping leveling example. As for level exploit, you still need to go out of your way playing game and farming badges, also it’s just a game, no IRL situations can be applied. I’m talking specifically this situation, i do not believe it’s right thing to do, what im saying, is that , it would not happen, to scale it did, if game itself wasnt so boring pre cap.
And the money was just an example but you missed the idea.
Regarding of what breach or crime or what ever. The person who did it… will ALWAYS have a reason which he will defend it by.
Will stick WoW regarding example:
I abused X because I was low on gold
I abused M because that feature is boring
I hacked arenas because my Class is undertuned and Blizz doesnt want to fix it.
I abused bug M because my character’s hair didnt had the color I wanted
…
Adding your excuse.
I abused the potions bug cause leveling is boring.
See where I am going? Every person who abuses something will ALWAYS claim that somebody else was to blame for it. Nobody ever will fully take responsibility and will always try to shift blame as best as they can to something else…
We really don’t need every person starting their own exploit topic. There are many on the go already. Please join in one.
Well duh. U cheated, u got caught, punished and now u are pis sed about it. Rest of your post is straight up bs and excuses. What is the exact point of this topic is still mistery for me. I hope they also delete those exploited characters.
Ok, i see your point. You have all rights to have your opinion here.
But you gotta look at a bigger picture sometimes, some things are worse then the others.
Abusing for gold income, is bad for realm, cuz of inflation.
Abusing hacks, for arena is bad experience for opposing team.
Abusing leveling does not hurt anyone.
And at the end of the day, im not trying to change your mind here. I got banned, for exploit. I gave MY opinion, to why exploited for the first time since 2008, i will leave till mid summer. You guys, who think it’s justifiable to ban us, who level abused during this short window, will get hit as well, simply by loosing more players in the game, that already has quite a lot of people leaving. We personally, will never meet in game, but you as a player will have less people to buy from, sell to, play with etc. More people leave, more people will leave. At the end of the day it’s not just black and white here. But you have a good day, no point arguing, considering, you are right to a certain extent. And i’m in the wrong.
No offence to you Freedruid but this perspective is not very different from ones in existing threads of the subject. Could you please post on those threads, you will find much more people to discuss this with on those. Nothing personal against you but it is starting to be a bit mess to read forums when so many people make their own thread to talk about same subject. ![:smiley:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/smiley.png?v=6" ":smiley:")
Same story with speeding on a lone road and getting stopped by traffic cop
“Why can’t I speed on a lone road with no other cars around in miles? I wasn’t endangering anyone!” - not sure if that argument would work out. Simply because there is nobody in your near vicinity…doesn’t mean that it doesn’t affect somebody.
Aight. For the sake of argument. It hurt me! I also have limited time. Why do I have to “grind” like a madman to level up in “boring and exhausting content” while you can pretty much get “free levels” with potion bug?
Ok…now what will you say? IT DID HURT ME as fellow player? 