Does anyone else go “who cares?” when you see someone have in their keys info “2.8k main” when the guy or girl is on their alt (normally not linked as an alt on their rio profile either). Like having a main who is a bit higher, is going to make them player better or given someone confidence, that they will squeeze out an extra 100 dmg on the boss.
It’s the same with people in raids, who put “4/9 Mythic Lead”… cool story, but how does that help the some people to not die on mechanics.
Not going to lie, 99% of the time I always avoid those groups, most of the time they’re lying or the raid one, is a friend being boosted by their guild mate, so you’ll see a heroic line up of people and 1 random guy in their green gear after just freshly hitting 70.
Cringe, but yeah!
Anyway back to playing and laughing at those people.
I care if their main has good score, yes. That suggests familiarity with routes and tactics, even if not skill with the particular spec they’re playing (but they were good enough with another spec to get a certain score, so there’s certainly potential). On the other hand, if they actually spell out their main’s score, that just makes me go through this process:
If they actually have that score: Yes I see your main’s score, I’m not stupid, I don’t want you.
If they don’t have that score: I don’t see you as having that main score, so either you’re making it up, don’t know how to connect your characters on RIO, or are playing multiple accounts for some weird reason, and I don’t want you.
Definitely not my experience that they’re lying, it’s just kind of irrelevant unless they’re playing the same role. Being like 3.5k on a tank doesn’t mean you’ll play anywhere close to that on your DPS or healer alt.
Like, if someone would take my rat alt because of my healer score when I sign as a dps on the alt, they’re in for a surprise.
I feel it’s only relevant information if the characters are linked and the claim is verifiable. If the RIO add-on doesn’t show the same info, writing it in the description would be a reason for me to not pick the player.
Yes, I’d prefer an applicant or key holder who has a good amount of experience on their main character. They may not play their alt as well as their main character, but the player is likely (not guaranteed) to know the mechanics etc. At least within reason (sufficient item level for the key).
Score means nothing because of boosting. Seen way to many “high rio mains, pumper role” dudes who are actually less useful than your followers, at this point radier io is there to tell you whether someone’s boosted or legit.
“2800 rio” disc priest dying to Tyr frontal and not dispelling, 480+ frost mage barely hitting 100k average, 480+ resto druid “pumping” a whopping 70k hps , the list goes on.
Usually the first few packs or the first boss will let you know whether that number actually means something or is just a credit card swipe.
It’s context. If someone is in an 18 with 500 score but I know their main is 2.8k it gives me confidence that they know the mechanics etc.
It’s just another data point you can consider. Whether or not you lend weight to it is up to you.
To be honest, if you avoid groups like this I’ll start putting it in descriptions when I form them. I think you not joining is a net gain to any group.
When making groups for farm content (keys 18-20, hc raid), l would 100% of the time prefer alts of people that have main score 2,8k-3k or mythic experience.
The reason is knowledge.
It might sound harsh, but the difference of game knowledge between people after a certain rating threshold is pretty huge. Before 2.8k is total chaos, after 3k people have some knowledge, every 1k rating after that, the skill gap increases.
It is not actually a matter of being a better player, but just time investment in the current season. A 2.5k player at the moment just did not bother to push/learn the dungeons and/or his class, and this shows in a dungeon compared to a 2.9k player (even if the difference is only 400 points).
Exactly in part, so if they’re linked, there is no need to say “zomg my main in 420 blast it!”. People can see that their main is x rio. But also like someone else mentioned, people do pay for boosts and lets face it most of the time we don’t check their profiles.
I mean if someone says they are 3k on main (and actually are), then yeah I dont necessarily expect them to be able play at a 3k level on their alt, but I am going to assume it means they have the baseline knowledge from doing every key on like a 22, so it does count for something.
If I’m doing a low key I don’t care (within reason), if I’m trying to time something new or do a higher key then I’m not going to take a learner.
I have ofc dragged friends through keys and you frequently see a low geared or low experience person queue with a high gear/high experience player. You just have to decide if it’s worth it.
Basically this. If someone’s main is a decent RIO score vs the key you are doing then it is some reassurance that they won’t mess up the dungeon mechanics.
Player knowledge of both spec and dungeon can be worth about 20-30 ilvls in my experience. Seen people at 450 giving others at 475 a run for their money, because they knew which buttons to press, and they knew which mobs to interrupt, meanwhile people in higher gear might still die in frontals.
That said, writing your main’s score on your signup note is pointless. If you use RIO, I already know. If you don’t use RIO, frankly I’m at the point I don’t have enough trust to take a pug player at their word.
Or if I was joining a pug raid, it doesn’t matter to me at all; that 5/9M leader most likely isn’t going to encourage people to join their discord and they definitely won’t type out full strats before each boss because nobody got time for that. And if they really are 5/9M on main, again, I will see it if they use RIO.
TLDR, if you actually have a decent main, use RIO. This is your badge of trust in the pug world. Your word means nothing without evidence.
I don’t need the textbox to know if they are a good player or not.
I need a Rio score + logs, and in worst case - Trial and Error.
I boost people, so I know how many people get boosted nowadays too, so even Rio matters little if you don’t put time/effort into actually checking peoples backgrounds…
… and by then I feel like a stalker, and like I should just play something chill instead.
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