Premade "Random" Battleground

So numerously I have entered a Random BG just to encounter the infamous “Russian Premade” and then proceed to be ROFLStomped 0-3 flags captured, 0-1500 resources gathered etc…

Here is my question:
According to the WoWWiki : " An exploit (known as “exploitive activity” by Blizzard) is a method of playing the game in a way not intended by the game developers to gain an advantage over other players. As with all massively multiplayer online games, World of Warcraft has its share of players who exploit and cheat."

Are “premade” groups then not seen as an exploit? You can queue for Random BG’s with a party of up to 5 members, but the moment you create a raid group you have to queue for Rated Battlegrounds. (Due to the nature of the topic I will not elaborate on how it is done to have a “premade” Battleground group join the Random Battleground queue)

If I were to start doing this with my guild would there be a chance that we would receive bans for exploitive behavior? (Even soft-bans) If this is the case, how do we go about reporting said players then?

Furthermore, I have nothing against the Russian players or servers, but please segregate the Russian servers from the EU servers again. Random Battlegrounds are an auto loss if you play vs Russians due to above mentioned

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No! Russians belong to our region, we should be playing with them! Blizzard should just make the whole region queue together instead of slicing it by national server groups.

Why WHY does it make ANY sense to force language groups in PvP when in PvE they just play with everyone else???

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Random dungeon is german only too. Or lfr raid.

We play together from lfg tool groups only where people look for others. Like mythic +15 tol dagor checking Rio. That’s mixed with other regions.

PvE groups generally have everyone in discord so… premade…
Raiding on Normal or HC and joining a group… again premade…
Making your own raid group… “I want this amount of Tanks, melee DPS, ranged DPS and Healers, min iLvl should be x and you have to link me this achievement, do all of that and I will consider adding you to our group”… premade…

Exactly this…delete battlegroups its 2020

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But thats not the point…point is thatthey are mixed with everybody in raid finder. There isnt russianpve battlegroup

You’ve missed the point.

yes i can confirm that russian premade is destroying pvp in europe!!

Blizzard needs to give those hardtrys c*ntz a dedicated server with russian only.
It’s the only solution to save Random PVP!!

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Blizzard its urgent! I cant’t even spell their names…
I have 12 max lev chars on different servers and factions. But each time we facing those stupid premade russian groups the are just hardtrying to camp on the cementery.

They don’t care to win the game the just hardtrying to kill players on one spot!!
“Mighty russian” fighting with 10 players vs 3 poor players which just revived.
Wow well done skillfull russians :open_mouth:

Blizzard should remove them and leave europe alone.

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Lfg tool is mixed.

But random dungeon and raid queue are same nationality german only.

How hard is it to understand, u can’t do normal bgs anymore becouse of communities, problem will be here forever if blizz don’t remove em or solo que.

atelast mix up the 10v10 and 15v15 bgs, it would help so much

Can someone explain how exactly can you guarantee they are using premades (outside of the allowed 5 men queue) when all I see is 10 or 15 Russians in the same team from 3 different servers? How can anyone guarantee this is a premade and not only 10 or 15 dudes for 3 different servers being drafted together while solo queueing? Are people just assuming 10 Russians together so it must be premade? Any more evidence I’m missing?

Even better than premades: Horde premades that go merc for quicker entry. This really has to stop Blizzard…

It’s a myth that only Russian do it. I’ve been invited (by accident) to an English speaking community that had hundreds of people and had several groups constantly queuing up together.

At some point you start recognizing the names, regardless of whether they are Cyrillic or not. Queuing up as a group at the same time, and only accept entry when every group had entry = high chance of same (e)bg.

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Same should happen for german and french teams.

My guess is german and french servers have 60k subscribers.

If you are horde , and enemy team is german alliance most of the enemy team players should be from aegwynn , blackmoore or Antonidas.

If you are alliance, german horde enemy team should be blackmoore, Blackrock , blackhand server players.

It happens because most want to play on high pop servers.

There are like 10k players on the servers I told you, other servers are small. And should have 980 players etc each.

When I check russian servers , their servers are all about 3 servers too with 10k population. Gordunni(20k) , Howling fjord (10k) and Soulflayer (10k) players. Rest of the russian realms are around 800 people etc and most connected to each other.

Dont think this same nationality servers as high population as eu.

It doesn’t matter who plays BG (German, Italian, Russian, Etc.). What matters - that premade groups are queued vs just a bunch of random players, resulting in a very bad quality BG.
Just fix the matchmaking that 3-5 ppl premades can only be matched vs same big premades (plus few randoms to fill holes). But never ever should 10 random players be queued vs 5man premade+randoms.
I find 2man pre-mades are not that impactful, 3+ already makes big difference.

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Stop this exploiting pre made random bgs…

Ru realms have 3 big - 1 side dominating servers. 2 of them on the horde, 1 on the ally side. U can q for random BG and be with 7 guys from the same servers and you even don’t know each other. But EU salty guys think thats is rpemade, ofc in discord and ofc hackers - using 3-rd party programms and so on, and Cirilica - cirilica names, thats tricky Rusky always trying to cheat, yes, yes! Always do a preamde and make me lagging. Delete them!
Yes, there is communities thats do a premades, but in the same time EU have a lot of too. The main problem not in premades, but in undergeared guys and AFK-rs.

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send their servers to chinas and we’ll see how they tryhard each other.
Would be the only fair solution.

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