You’re wrong. There are videos uploaded of TSOTH premades facing off against Oreluk, Larkus, and previously Nepha/Fadoo premades in epic. They do exactly the same, and we loved meeting them.
Please don’t speak without enough knowledge…
Thanks hun but I dont need your permission to speak…
The odd video of premade v premade does not make up for the hundreds and hundreds of EBG’s played against randoms where the only objective is to be annoying as possible and stomp randoms for a quick ego boost.
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You don’t need my permission to speak, i just said stop talking of things that are not true, like that we would not dare against another premade:
Horde had 3 epic BG leaders that did exactly the same than Pandora’s community. We never lost a single match against them and later they began to leave the BGs as soon as they saw our names…
So I repeat: stop spreading false rumors
Reason and logic is all the proof needed.
Thread after thread complaining about the impact of premades in EBG’s. You can be sure for every thread posted complaning about these premads theres hundreds of people who agree and who are having their game ruined just the same but dont contribute.
Yet. The EBG premades continue. Game after game after game. Runing the gaming experience of others.
Basic reasoning that a 10 year old would be capable of would tell you this : The premades are totally aware of how they make the game a misery for so many people yet they continue to farm them in EBG’s. Its simple logic to reach the conclusion that one of the motives of the premades is to ruin the game for others.
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You’re damn right i dont…
You do that every day? Or do you spend 99% of the time farming randoms for a laugh because you enjoy ruining peoples game? You know the answer…
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I answered this above. Another thing is that you do not bother to read.
And I don’t play epics every day, only a few days.
Good! Finally an answer and admission! 99% of your motivation is trying to make other peoples games a misery in randoms. Gotcha 
You still haven’t read my answer.
I’ve read your “answer” several times. Nowheree do you mention your motivation when taking premades into EBG randoms.
Either way. Simple logic dictates that part of the motivation for doing this is wanting to stop all over randoms and mage the game a misery for them.
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My main motivations to run in premades are avoid bad geared players, AFK leechers, people that ignore game’s objetives…
The same motivation than horde got when they play epic bgs against alliance casuals in Epics?
Explain to me why is there a huge imbalance in the % of victories between factions when it comes to epic bgs?
I never see the horde players complaining about the miserable experience in epic bg of alliance players when they play solo.
I can assure you that not only do you not care, but that you would make fun of it if it weren’t because now you have a problem that you don’t know how to deal with.
Why not?
Well, create an alliance char, or queue as mercenary to Epic Bg during a week without premades and you will see if the stats that triip are talking about are false or true.
Its got nothing to do with Allliance/Horde…dear me…
Do you have stats for this “huge imbalance”? Access to data I dont have? There was a time back in WoD when official data was available when Alliance won 90% of EBG’s…
The first 4 EBG’s i played today were lost to alliance teams that were not premades.
Dont care about what? are you OK? I think you need to mature a little…
I care very much if other people enjoy the game. Deliberately engaging in tactics which YOU KNOW makes others miserable is just simple proof that YOU do not.
What stats? Youve offered no other stats than “I think we lose more”…lol…
Often I dont have that much time to play, so I often queue mercenary to get a faster queue but also a quicker win.
Again. Do you have actual win-loss stats? Or are you making a judgement based on your emotions and anecdotal evidence?
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Inspect the stats in Epic Bgs of most alliance players, and compare with the horde players. You can do it in oribos.
That changed at BFA, almost like magic.
Download Reflex Addon, and sign up for Epic bg as a mercenary. When you have played about 10 in a row put the results here.
Inspect the stats of individual players? Is that the best you’ve got? Really? You know what sample size is and how it relates to statistsics yes?
I’m thinking not…
This is your problem. Your basing your “evidence” on a tiny sample size and anecdotal evidence…
You know as wll as I do that it would be easy to lose all of those bg’s no matter what faction I’m playing.
If you could show me stats for say 5000 Epic BG’s played between a pool of around 1000 players and give a % win rate, then you would have evidence. You’d have an accuracy of about +/- 3% either way.
Unfortunately all you have is “I personally feel like I lose more and so do some other people” and “inspect the win rates of individual players”…not really evidence is it…?
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Then what is your problem with people that play premades?
Do you think I’m going to go in to waste time losing?
For that directly I would rather not play.
It seems to me that you do not understand how Wow-stats .com worked during WOD times (The stats you were talking about).
We should stop that circling here.
People like Delenis don’t have the skill for RBG so they exploit Blizzards laziness to fix queue grouping and farming unorganized groups and feeling good about it.
We all know that Blizzard isn’t ok with queing a full group but a maximum of 5 players (see how they fixed it in Classic or when they killed addons that worked around that) but we know too that Blizzard is lazy and slow and people have no problem with exploiting everything.
So, just don’t queue Epic BG and let them die out or open tickets until it is fixed. Nothing more you can do and discussing here is inefficient.
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Yeah, I feel bad for you guys. I guess it would not hurt you that much, if you would also meet other groups, and not “our” premade every time.
But consider the following: If you meet us in EVERY EBG game, that means that there are not many alliance players else queuing. What would happen if we were NOT queueing? There would be no one playing on the Alliance side. Horde would get 40 min queues, and after 1-2 games the alliance randoms (the low-geared, average-skilled, that you horde players are used to farm in EBGs) would start quitting EBGs because they don’t get free wins (when they luckily enter our premade BG).
Suddenly there will be no one left queuing for Alliance.
Oh, I would love to Lead that! Back in WoD there were many Ashran-Leaders and we had our “internal Rankings” on who may be the best Leader!
There will be never a rated format for that though. Too difficult to get 40 people at the same time. Our premade has hardly more than 20 players at peak times.
Hah,well me and some others quit EBGs because of your abuse of game mechanics. But I remember Blizzard introduced bots into the game recently. Like players were facing bot teams. So another soluton would be replace leaving players with these bots. You appear with your premade, people see you and leave in disgust,they got replaced with bots and not other players, you get your mess of a game and nobody suffers. And again it is a good option as all power is handed to players. If you start to complain about people leaving, well that would empirically prove nobody wants to play with abusers of mechanics.
crying andy. What is reddit?
Im just a normal griefer.