Prot in PVE vent thread

[Cyaeith-argent-dawn]

What’s up with Protection Paladin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0brZctuUJk my own opinion. what they should do Buff devo aura to be 15% instead of 3% buff shield of the righteous from 3% to 20% buff divine stead to 25 sec CD buff final stand to give everyone else divine shield as well as taunting adds. buff avenger shield to give holy power Remove word of glory mana cost. Give templar more damage reduction on Empyreal hammer up from 5% to 15% make our mastery do more absorb on shield of the righteous instead of consecration …

maybe these changes should be given.

[Rolannd-aggramar]

@Sìckmyduck-kazzak

I came into this expansion with a lot of enthusiasm for trying out the Protection Paladin as my main tank. I dedicated a significant amount of time leveling and gearing up, striving to push through Mythic+ content. However, my experience so far has left me feeling more like a naked mage than a fully-geared tank.

Despite my efforts, I often find myself struggling to keep up in Mythic+. It’s disheartening to feel this fragile despite having the gear, and the frustration only grows when one out of every three pulls ends in death simply because my self-sustain feels underwhelming. I understand tanks were nerfed significantly this expansion, but I genuinely believe Protection Paladins require a comprehensive rework to remain viable.

Admittedly, I’m not claiming to be a top-tier Prot Paladin, but I can’t shake the feeling that there’s an inherent imbalance with this class/spec right now. Even with optimal play, the level of struggle far outweighs any sense of reward. Protection Paladins should feel like defenders of the Light, not brittle paper shields that crumble under consistent Mythic+ pressure.

Many players, myself included, do not have endless hours to spend on the game. Between families, jobs, and other responsibilities, our time is precious. Investing all of it into gearing a character only to find out it cannot effectively fulfill its role is disheartening. I love Paladins as a class, but right now, the state of Protection Paladins feels unrewarding and almost punitive.

I know that I am not alone in this sentiment, as many others on the forums have echoed similar experiences and frustrations. I sincerely hope Blizzard takes these voices to heart and considers adjustments to make Protection Paladins feel more in line with their intended purpose—sturdy and reliable tanks who can protect their team without feeling like a burden.

Peace out

this person has a big point

[Rolannd-aggramar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0brZctuUJk my own opinion. what they should do

Buff devo aura to be 15% instead of 3%

buff shield of the righteous from 3% to 20%

buff divine stead to 25 sec CD

buff final stand to give everyone else divine shield as well as taunting adds.

buff avenger shield to give holy power

Remove word of glory mana cost.

Give templar more damage reduction on Empyreal hammer up from 5% to 15%

make our mastery do more absorb on shield of the righteous instead of consecration

there fixed the whole specc

[Tüne-grim-batol]

So, after checking on wowhead what they plan for Paladin tree in next patch, seems more of a rework on the class tree, and not so much on the protection tree.

One thing that continues, on both trees now, is talents to reduce the cd on our defensives. Sure, who doesnt like shorter cd on those, but the thing is, we shouldnt need it.

On DF, i got all portals from +20 and +10 without spaming those defensives like we have to do now. Feels like 50% of the time we are in combat in M+, we need some defensive up.

Also, i feel im too dependente on Divine Toll, since making pulls without it, have good chances of losing agro on some moobs.

Prot Paladins have lower mitigation, lower Hp, and lower damage output of all tanks. But Blizzard focus continues to be on reducing the cd on defensives, instead of making sure we wont need those defensives so often.

Also, everyone says we need to keep SoR up 100%, but thats shouldnt be game breaker, since AS doesnt give holy power, and you still need procs, and we sometimes (many times) need to use WoG.

If the extra armor from SoR is really that importante, then maybe it should be granted us some other way, like from Consecration, for example.

To have a tank designed to need Haste as main stat, just feels wrong, since there is no direct benefict from it. And items BiS hardly ever drop.

If they want us to keep spamming SoR, then we need more holy power sources. Lets check some ideas:

Do like Warlocks, lets us have 3 holy power when out of combat, so we start every pull with 3.

AS once again will grant holy power.

Grand Crusader now resets Divine Toll instead of AS.

Grand Crusader procs also grant 3 holy power.

Remove cd on Blessed Hammer.

These are some options to grant us more holy power, so we can more easly keep SoR up often, but i still feel like its not enough. If only things were that easy and simple, we wouldnt be here discussing it.

I think the problem is hidden, something Blizzard done that is causing prot palas to take way too much damage. Already got enough armor to do reduce physical damage by close to 50%, also got 50% block, plus the mastery, so what really changed since DF?

[Rolannd-aggramar]

@Tüne-grim-batol

So, after checking on wowhead what they plan for Paladin tree in next patch, seems more of a rework on the class tree, and not so much on the protection tree.

One thing that continues, on both trees now, is talents to reduce the cd on our defensives. Sure, who doesnt like shorter cd on those, but the thing is, we shouldnt need it.

On DF, i got all portals from +20 and +10 without spaming those defensives like we have to do now. Feels like 50% of the time we are in combat in M+, we need some defensive up.

Also, i feel im too dependente on Divine Toll, since making pulls without it, have good chances of losing agro on some moobs.

Prot Paladins have lower mitigation, lower Hp, and lower damage output of all tanks. But Blizzard focus continues to be on reducing the cd on defensives, instead of making sure we wont need those defensives so often.

Also, everyone says we need to keep SoR up 100%, but thats shouldnt be game breaker, since AS doesnt give holy power, and you still need procs, and we sometimes (many times) need to use WoG.

If the extra armor from SoR is really that importante, then maybe it should be granted us some other way, like from Consecration, for example.

To have a tank designed to need Haste as main stat, just feels wrong, since there is no direct benefict from it. And items BiS hardly ever drop.

If they want us to keep spamming SoR, then we need more holy power sources. Lets check some ideas:

Do like Warlocks, lets us have 3 holy power when out of combat, so we start every pull with 3.

AS once again will grant holy power.

Grand Crusader now resets Divine Toll instead of AS.

Grand Crusader procs also grant 3 holy power.

Remove cd on Blessed Hammer.

These are some options to grant us more holy power, so we can more easly keep SoR up often, but i still feel like its not enough. If only things were that easy and simple, we wouldnt be here discussing it.

I think the problem is hidden, something Blizzard done that is causing prot palas to take way too much damage. Already got enough armor to do reduce physical damage by close to 50%, also got 50% block, plus the mastery, so what really changed since DF?

https://youtu.be/rPULtenWUqE?t=7 ←

blizzards prot rework .

[Rolannd-aggramar]

in all honesty rework the class make paladin viable bring back this

• Glyph of Consecrator
• Major [ Glyph ](https:// wowpedia.fandom. com/wiki/Glyph)
• Use: Permanently teaches you this glyph.

Your Consecration effect now moves with you.

tbh would fix the class a bit.

also bring back holy power on avenger shield.-