Every time I am surprised how good the lore, story and how alive Wow feels like no other game in the world is even close. Cinematic, Quests, mounts, everything was looking great.
Then the raids and M+ day came… Did anyone who had IQ higher then 15 test the tanking and the scaling ?! We told you balance between classes sucks, covenants and legendaries are super bad you acted its all cool. Like how the heck Warrior tank can tank mythic+11 with PUG. This is the most stressful gameplay ever existed on any game. I tanked endgame content /yesterday i was in top 15 warrior tanks in my server/ for years and this is unreal outside of SW you cant tank. YOU JUST CAN’T keep aggro and use AM at the same time/coz they all cost way to much rage and don’t do much next to other classes who have this as a base line/, M+ tanking is broken, raids tanking broken there is 0 FUN just stress.
We should all just /reroll or logout and delete ?!
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Haven’t done high keys with my warrior but I agree damage is crap and I lose aggro to hunters always and if I use revenge then I take a lot of damage. So it’s either aggro vs survival unless there is a good healer who is stressed to keep me alive so I can be more offensive to hold aggro.
Prot wars need some love.
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I have no issues with aggro. But maybe I’m just too used to tab targeting. But I agree, no other tank has to sacrifice survival for aoe. It’s unfair.
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Yup, 100 percent agree. I have tested other tanks too. They are way too much better feel.
Druid kinda sucks at dmg tho
The best difference is god damn DH. Honestly WThell is wrong with that difference.
WIth warrior it feels like anything you do might be the last thing you do, using a single revenge when things go messy to get agro usually might be the moment you die couse there is just not enough rage to use already useless Ignore Pain which drops after one hit…
Cant complain about DMG part tho. If you focus DPS you do tons. Just cant survive anything while doing that.
Warr needs some crazy survival buff or it better scale with gear 200 percent better then other tanks, couse right now its just insane.
Lol DH casual AM build in rotation, in general he just dont take as much dmg and doesnt suffer any DMG loss during AM use. Warr should have sumthing like that…
RIght now our AM are harder to keep up and way weaker then others.
Shield block ye kinda cool, but you cant just give us one spell and give it CD so long you cant even play the game without 60 percent haste
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I rly want to play my warrior, but it’s just so damn weak compared to my DK or Pally. I know many ppl say “play what you like if u are not a top 100 raider”, but it’s only fair if the gameplay doesn’t feel gimped. It does on pwar actually. It has zero self-sustain, yet it takes roughly the same amount of dmg as a paladin. Who can heal decently on emergency and do fine w/o a healer on ez stuff. They should rly look at pally and balance other tanks around that since it’s rly well-balanced one IMO. When I do rger on my warr and healer leaves I basically have to sit there waiting for abother one, where I can just do the packs as pally or dk with some CD management. This is awfully demotivating.
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Couldn’t agree more prot warrior atm is more stressful than 2020 itself due to it’s lack of anything useful besides coping well against basic attacks and utility.
I really don’t have the motivation to re-do content just to feel viable in higher content on a dh tank nor should the game force me to.
Really just feels like Deja-vu from BFA release when prot warriors were completely underpowered and replaced by blood dks for a full 6 months
You never thanked anything higher then +7 sit down son when you go +10 then you will know.
We can all see from the popularity of other tanks that overall Warrior is not up there, it’s the least popular and lowest performing tank at Mythic raid level and in M+ with a clear margin on WClogs, it’s not close.
That said, Limit has ran Prot Warrior on all the world first kills. They could have chosen any tank, Warrior is pretty rough at the moment in M+ but there are still guys running 14s and 15s with them and Warriors are still what you’re going to see when you look at the tank line-up for the world first kills.
It’s like Arms Warrior, it sucks unless its in 2-3 target situation but that situation has shown up enough that if you turn on the world first race right now you will see Arms Warriors making regular appearances.
My warrior is ilvl 196 and I start to feel squishy at level 8-9 mythic plus keys. Everything below that feels good tbh. Cannot tell if this is intentional or not. Gameplay itself is fun, yet sometimes stressful because crazy damage spikes even during Shield Block/Ignore Pain/Demo Shout do happen.
I agree. Im only 177 now but even +2 is a hassle. Gonna level my paladin since i dont trust blizzard to fix this crap
Nah, Prot is fine in m+ and even better in raids. Echo guild literally have prot warrior tanking during mythic progression and they are 8/10 now. Learn to play this game please.
You realize that they only have a warrior tank in the raid because he provides Battleshout for everyone else and a DPS warrior would be a huge waste of slot for classes that do insane damage right now right? So having a warrior tank is actually their least bad option.
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Tbh my prot pala is worse 1v1 than my prot war BUT on the other hand my pala has superb healing yet again I feel safer fighting bosses with my warrior but I don’t feel safe when I do big pulls
I’d love to support you but that’s not really true, they have had an Arms Warrior and Prot Warrior in the raid, was watching limit last night progressing Generals and 4 of the previous world first kills also included both an Arms and Prot Warrior.
Arms Warrior is actually very strong on cleave fights, Prot/Vengeance is just their tank lineup.
Generals is the hardest boss so far, therefore only one warrior present for Battleshout & Rallying Cry for Pieces. Echo uses one warrior for Batleshout & Rallying Cry as well. Limit uses the DPS warrior not because he was the best class but because he was geared. On Generals he is bottom of the damage.
After getting the wall legendary and some decent ilvl and haste you will see a massive difference in your overall performance. Sadly to get most of that stuff you need to be carried like a baby since warriors really struggle undergeared.
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The shield wall legendary memory is available this week in LFR. Got it in there myself.
Agree with this.
After crafting “The Wall” it becomes more stronger but to be carried? Give me a break. Been running keys and having the healer tell me “healing was easy” (not just shammies) kinda gives me a different expression.
I just wish there was a way to properly practice in a live envrionment without getting crap hurled at me when I’m still learning the spec’s ins and outs. As much as I liked Legion Prot Warrior, I have to get used to the changes somehow.