Ok so I’m planning to start my journey in wotlk classic and I was wondering how are prot warrs doing in end game PvE? I’ve heard from couple of ppl that they sux as tanks l (specifically in phase 4) and I will have very hard time finding groups once I hit max lvl… is that really true, cuz I don’t remember them been that bad in OG wotlk. And please don’t tell me stuff like “roll prot pala/bdk/bear” because I have no interest in these tanks.
It’s okay. You can clear all content in the game with prot warrior but it is probably the weakest tank and for sure with weakest offspecs. You should be fine, just keep in mind that there is basically no scenario where any tank is more desirable than paladin.
I would disagree on the last sentance but that doesnt go for 95% of the community, only like 5% where max amount of dmg matters, with a prot mt you can just shave off a warrior from doing dps which leads to faster kills and less healing required for the tank overall.
Warriors are good but with some streamers collective decided to bash it to death which made every casual guild in this game avoiding them all together. As the matter of fact most prot palas today are tanks trapped in a ret body and they didnt wanna reroll class, most of them are useless. I cant see any reason i’d take a DK mt aswell over warrior, a dk is trash at solo tanking content IC, freya, yogg and everything that involves multiple targets. But to answer ts, i tank with dk, warrior paladin, the best is paladin.
Least boring is warrior, then comes dw dk tank and then prot paladin.
Agree with this, no matter what peeps say, it’s in my opinion, a reliable tank. I had a lot of fun leveling my own and I remember being able to tank most of ICC with ease, too.
Leveling is especially easy, as you can round up multiple mobs and barely make a sweat as you murder them all with cleaves and Revenge. 
Beats the struggle of Fury waiting till like level 40 to get a full rotation of sorts 
warriors are a strong tank. their only downside is that their dps offspecs are bottom tier, and that pala is a stronger main tank because it brings a raid cd, but a good warrior tank for sure has a place in wotlk
So from what I understand, I shouldn’t have any issues getting in to groups as prot warrior?
You will have SOME issues, at the end of the day pink tanks are just broken in wotlk, it is what it is. That being said, right now Algalon 25 is the tank buster boss and you can do it with any combination of tanks so it’s more about your drive to play any specific class and finding good environment for yourself.
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You understood it completely the opposite. People view on prot warriors is worse than the spec itself. If you really want to be a warrior I guess you should go for it but if you just want to be a tank then there are better options
Prot warriors are underrated. While they’re not as strong (they’re still perfectly viable MT, even in ICC) as Prot Paladins and Bears in progression raids as they can be chunked when out of CDs, once content is on farm Prot Warriors are the speedrunning tank kings. Prot warriors are incredibly mobile and excell at dragging packs while holding threat. They also have the highest tank DPS.
So basically: progression = pally > feral > warrior > DK
Fast/speedrun = warrior > paladin > feral > DK (they’re great in very easy raids though)
There’s no question paladin is the safest choice, feral is best OT and a very durable MT, warrior has highest dps and most mobility once content is on farm, DK is outperformed in all roles atm (low surv, low damage, good threat).
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Well I’ve decided to give it a shot. The playstyle of wotlk prot warr is what I really like so it worth the risk 
Back in OG wotlk being a prot warr was never an issue, but I do understand that times change… Hopefully I won’t be disappointed!
I would not recommend a prot warrior. If you gona play tank play a paladin, thats the only tank that is actually taken to raids unless you know people. If you find a guild then Protpaladin and Druid is the safest bet. (You want druid for LK HC and thats about it)
Depends on what you are planning to play …
With 20 dps slots, its easier to hide one weaker player, with 2 tanks, the pressure is much higher and you will rather opt for safety …
Why would you take warr, when you can take unkillable, unhitable pala with infinite aoe and singletarget threat who brings 8 classes worth of utilities …
If you plan to play once in a month, if you are newbie who doesnt know tactics and how to play and if you want to join ICC pug with blue gear, obviously people will ignore you …
90% of PvE players are braindead lemmings who can only follow crappy online guides and cant thinks for themselves …
If you are good player who knows what to do, if you get geared and find some guild with people who arent absolute muppets, you have safe raid spot forever …
Tanks are always needed and good tanks are always welcome …
The guild I was running with so far as my pala now had to change their roster since I politely told them to zog off until Ulduar is gone and they are running with DK and warr as their main tanks, and as far I as I know, they cleared out full 25 ulduar without prot pala …
Prot War is fine.
There are multiple reasons.
The no1 is Hysteria. Blood DK is the only tank in the game which can directly improve group dps via this buff. Just wait till Fury Wars get their first Shadowmourne and cry for Hysterias all the time.
The second reason is access to two important raid-wide buffs - 20% melee haste and 10% attack power. With Blood DK you cover both, so you have more freedom in making a raid comp, allowing you to take more pump classes (e.g. Fire Mages or Affli Locks) instead of support ones, again, improving group dps.
You can always cover multitarget tanking in some specific encounters via Hunters/Rogues.
If u are doing normal endgame content then prot Warrior is awesome! It’s more than viable, a LOT of fun to play and always welcome in any group i have encountered.
If you are aiming for super sweaty speedrun Hardmode basement-chad runs then you will have a tougher time getting into groups compared to the pink „i cannot die even if i go afk“ class 
Prot pala before pulling:
-Apply Seal/Buffs
-Apply Divine Plea
-Apply Sacred Shield
-Apply Holy Shield
Prot warrior:
-Charge
Nuff said
If you wish to play Prot warrior go for it ! dont listen to these 2019 millenials !
Played Prot warr from 2005-2015 and was Main tank in the guild i was in top 40 guild EU and we cleared all content WoTLK with 0 fuss , as for damage if you take ur time learning the class and what to use you will outdps all the other tanks while tanking easily, as for dps its not trash , it beats a casual caster dps all day 
Prot war isn’t bad, it’s just prot pala brings more.
Prot war
- short cd interupt (situational)
- offensive dispel (situational)
- major armor reduction (shared with other warriors and rogue)
- spell reflect (situational)
- strong Shield Block ability vs fast attacking / group of mobs
- Last Stand, Shield Wall
- AP Shout (shared with pala)
- HP Shout (shared with lock’s imp)
- AoE stun
- single target stun
Prot pala
- Ardent Defender #1 Second Life
- Ardent Defender #2 damage reduction under 35% health
- Divine Sacrifice/Guardian (ride wide damage reduction, almost every encounter contains raid wide ability)
- BoK (unique, although there’s weaker version in form of drums)
- BoM (shared with warriors)
- BoW (shared with shamans)
- BoSac (stam/str bonus doesn’t stack with BoK, 3% damage reduction shared with disc priest)
- single target stun
- LoH (situational)
- HoSalvation (situational)
- HoSacrifice
- Freedom (situational)
- JoW/JoL (always handy)
- Divine Prot
There are just few encounters where warrior’s toolkit can be used to full extent, while pala’s have their toolkit useful almost on every boss.
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they also have 30% dmg reduction to their intervene target thru talents, which makes them a very solid offtank as well on 2 tank fights, maybe not better than a pala but you forgot that one
In heroic and heroic+ yes, no problem. You might get into 25ppl Ulduar normals as 3rd offtank, but barely anyone, especially PUGs want a warrior as a tank for 10 or 25 ppl hardmode tries.
- Paladins are most desired due having insane survivability and raid cooldowns,
- DKs have multiple short CD saves and take incoming damage more smoothly, also giving vital raid buffs & debuffs and have multiple tanking builds.
- Bears have massive HP pools, that help healers react when druid is getting massive hits in the snout. They also have good dps output for a tank, good threat generation and can be ideal offtank in some situations as their offspec has decent damage
- Warriors are good for trash tanking but when it comes for bosses the do not have survivability and utility of paladins, their defencive CD are strong but on long CDs leaving them exposed unlike DKs, their HP pool is rather low compared to ferals, but they take sudden damage spikes just like bears and sometimes healers do not have time to react.
TLDR if you are not going to do hard modes in Ulduar prot warrior is a good choise for an alt.