That twitter chain lmao.
“What you posted can be interpreted in a bad way my dude.”
“Omg you are awful, glad you don’t follow me”.
The absolute state of twittermen
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They might find a way to extract the evil Sylvanas soul, punish that part and keep good Sylvanas on as a based good girl hun.
I mean, they probably won’t kill her. She’ll do that herself. But they certainly won’t be like
“oh bby no, no dont cry is oki it wasnt u meanie jailer wasnt being truthful to u”
If they do that, that’s it, I will never take anything the WoW Writing Team do seriously. If a group decision is made that “hey, what if they just forgive her and let friendship defeat the jailer?” then that’s some gross crap right there.
I still don’t see how the cinematic portrays a redemption as many seem to think.
She got her soul back. That’s not telling us anything but she’ll be filled with absolute regret for what she did during her tenure as Banshee Queen.
I think it’s the parallels to kerrigan tbh. I think it’s also how Blizzard think they’re telling a 500 IQ narrative and that they’re playing intradimensional cluedo.
When in reality every time they’ve hyped something up or gone “bet you can’t guess what’s happening next!” Peoplw have come away disappointed or guessed exactly what they were doing.
It wouldn’t surprise me if they try to pull a kerrigan on Sylv because “she didn’t have her full soul…” or some trite nonsense they fabricated last minute in a book.
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yeah but you’re looking at it from a reasonable angle while you should be looking at it from the angle of a bunch of americans with 0 self awareness and a major issue with letting go of characters/groups in any way whatsoever
the vibe i’m getting so far is definitely that this is world’s most roundabout attempt at a character redemption, but i guess we’ll see in 9 months when the .5 patch rolls out.
which will probably also be the end of the expansion
Or maybe earlier, assuming there are a few campaign quests after the raid.
Let us not forget that part of Blizzard’s marketing was to Foster faction tribalism. And then tribalism around a character who they knee-jerked into a villain role despite drumming up mystery about who or why Teldrassil gets burnt up by/for.
They’ve continually teased a “will they get her? Won’t they get her?” Narrative where she continuously farts off into the sky. Fatiguing people who are already pretty tired of it while encouraging a loyalist fandom.
It has been a narrative of relatively cheap shocks with little thought of the repercussions which ripple out into the rest of the setting. I’m not even that irate over the Shadowlands Story, it’s dull. But to tell it they’ve trampled over a lot of everything from warcraft 3 onwards. Arthas and Kel’thuzad’s bromance? Nah fam Kel’thuzad was playing Arthas. The dreadlords? Yep, they were playing 6D Mahjong.
They’ve created an absolute swamp where I doubt they’re going to please anyone, the slightest of criticism is just met with accusations of toxicity and people who - let’s be honest - earn a wage by being yes men defending them to the hilt.
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Yeah, this is something they need to work on. It’s all good leaving clues to what leads to what. But of late, say the last 5 years - everything has been so easily figured out. Burning of Teldrassil is probably when it all started to come to light that they had no idea of keeping secrets.
We were all being told “Expect the unexpected!” And we all wanted to believe we weren’t going to see the expected result, I was very much one of those people holding onto hope. Alas, it was Sylvanas who ordered the burning, and ironically it was because of a Night Elf talking about holding onto hope that she burned it.
I guess with how they do testing via PTR we never really get the surprise of what is going to happen as everyones piecing together these quest chains or quest texts to make sense and figure it out themselves.
Perhaps they should look into making sure quest chains work without there being the lore behind them on PTR - Same with cinematics etc - leave out the voice lines on the PTR - that clearly can get tested on internal side such as the Garrosh one is new.
Like, other games I don’t like to be spoiled for… WoW… I don’t care? I know people who do and it shocks me honestly as I don’t understand what would be spoiled as this is something so easily thrown around by both the developers and the playerbase.
Just scrap this system entirely. Like I said on twitter when someone spoke about this - Look how BFA turned out for this bullcrap.
You can have PvP without splitting your community into two sides.
You can still have factions, the players don’t need to be restricted in what they do in the world by it.
Look at ESO - Faction Warfare works perfectly there but the playerbase is one unit outside of PvP.
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you guys are gonna feel really silly when Ranger-General Sylvanas, now fully re-ensouled and straddling the line between life and death, becomes High Queen of Azeroth because she embodies the best of both the Alliance and the Horde.
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Honestly, this is what kind of bothers me about the way a lot of the developers are acting on Twitter and the likes right now.
I shouldn’t have to say this, but obviously death threats and the like are absolutely reprehensible and the people that make them are utterly reprehensible.
At the same time, they’re now getting angry at criticism becoming toxic and toxicity being aimed towards them - while they (or at least, the people in charge!) were perfectly happy to consistently encourage and increase toxic behaviour towards other players for liking the wrong thing™ for well over a decade, with player harassment being something that isn’t handled… at all (and utilized as a cool marketing tool instead??)
I’m not justifying any of the toxicity but (uh oh…) it does kind of rub me the wrong way that this is only a problem when its starting to affect the company that actively encouraged it for well over a decade in the first place
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i won’t because i already predicted that right after seeing the cinematic 
Stop giving them bad ideas dude, sheesh.
I’m sure whichever story dev is watching the Twitter must be confused the heck out why people are enjoying the cheap Garrosh cinematic despite its state while everyone is malding over the fully rendered cinematic.
Let’s not forget that they have historically said they like players being upset because “it shows they are engaged”. One of their legendary tone deaf quotes to join the pile with “you think you do but you don’t”; " you can either have this or a raid tier"; “continuity only exists to tie the creativity of the author up.”
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And yet they still always gave us the raid tier, even when I didn’t want it 
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I absolutely, 100% and completely think that if the developers are looking for somebody to blame when people are so vitriolic and toxic toward them, they can only really look @ the mirror.
These arrogant, dismissive and “my way or the high-way” high-horse cadets were handed a franchise on a silver plate to develop, to cultivate and to develoö. Instead, they chose to break it apart and make their own playfield out of it, and then they have the arrogance to blame the customer, rather than themselves.
yes, obviously calling for somebody to be publically executed for ruining a video game is 100% wrong (And as much as I personally loathe Christie Golden, for once she isn’t obviously to blame), but as for all the other, extremely offensive and vitriolic backlash? Yep, 100% earned and they got only themselves to blame.
These people managed to turn one of the most loyal (and certainly one of the largest), supportive and enthusiastic fan communities into one of the most hostile in the span of 6 years. Yes, they have had this coming for a long time.
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Harassment is good if it’s against other players guys hehe
It’s wholly unsurprising, ultimately, that the playerbase at large is super toxic and shows these behaviours towards the developers now when the company’s fostered a mentality where with anything related to this game you should really hate everything that’s “the other guys”
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My other complaint regarding the constant retconning of Sylvanas is that none of it makes sense or rely on this fragile point…
Instead of being really intelligent and focused, turns out Sylvanas is just really, really, reaaaaaaaally an idiot. (The guitar sliding into Arthas sword was the dead give-away we ignored.)
The tribalism is incredibly trite and the way they stoke the flames is equally tiring, because there’s no way they don’t know how emotionally invested the stans are at this point. They can’t put out one fire without starting another one on the other side.
Being a blind yes man about the story and acting like it’s above reproach, and any attempt to criticise it is equated with toxicity is a very dumb thing to do. People who aggressively defend the story and call those who dislike it can frankly frick off. On the other side of the aisle you have people who do enjoy it getting grossly detailed DMs from people who are violently emotionally involved with the story.
Granted the extreme 
happens over Twitter, but it would be really dishonest to pretend like there has been no toxicity in this thread either. posting is fun and it’s all in good spirits, but every once in a while you spot a few posts crop up where they’re no longer being ironic.
If someone enjoys this story, good on them. I think it’s mediocre at best with no strong feelings towards either direction, just very boringly “that happened.” Same way I felt about Warlords at the time, with some things I enjoy about the expansion as a whole.
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This idea is perfect. How dare you!
Pretty much - they seem perfectly happy with essentially toying with the emotions (or even emotional wellbeing, if you like being dramatic!) of others, but when it then claps back that is when it becomes a problem? Like c’mon
I think I know the exact thing you’re referring to and yeah, jesus christ