PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 2)

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!” by every Youtuber out there that has to post this clickbaity title every 6 months or when a book is released.

There’s only one kind of prophecy I like, it’s the one that shows images, scenes or straight up tells you the end but the rollercoaster in order to get there, the context and the character progression.

We really treated the man poorly.

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It’s made way funnier when you realise Blizzard did it perfectly fine with Medivh but then they just sort of forgot how to write semi-intelligently I suppose so ever since we have to keep using Medivh (20 year-old character) as the basis.

Yup. Medivh was done really well as the Prophet/Sorceror who knows how it’s gonna end up but could influence the survival of the respective nations and factions should they heed him.

Speaking of prophecy, when is Velen’s visions gonna be fixed? I remember that one short story during Cata era which I think got expunged but don’t quote me on it since it also contained details about how the Exodar was fixed and operational, but for a Prophet, Velen sure hasn’t done much on that front.

The problem also expands to Nozdormu, when you have a spoiler machine so reliant but don’t use it, why even have him?

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Well Dragonflight made it so Nozdormu’s timeline vision has a range-limit of approximately 100 yards for some reason. He couldn’t see Fyrakk or Iridikron because they were too far away from him.

(Fyrakk was literally just in a cave next door)

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I always assumed it was some IC vagueposting about the Void clouding them from his vision or something🤔

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Say sike right now.

Which is followed by

He was quite literally in the ground directly beneath him.

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My (game) theory is that this is because there is a subset of fanbase that genuinely thinks there is a plan. There even were some people during Shadowlands, the most “we´re making stuff up as we go” expansion ever, that discussed the lore of that expansion with the same insane vigor fans of A Song of Ice and Fire discuss thematic implication of dinner in Dany´s 5th chapter in A Dance with Dragons (it´s been so long, George, just get someone to ghost write for you, please).

And thing is, if the author does these vague things but you know they actually have a plan, they are exciting. Often coming back to the start afterwards can be insane because you realize the ending got spoiled in first paragraph of the first book. It´s a promise of a mystery that will be resolved. This is where Blizzard fails, and why people enabling it can be so infuriating. There is no plan, no payoff, no promise, just random words that are made to sound mysterious so people theorycraft and Blizzard can then pick one of the theories 5 years later and pretend they planned it to the standing ovation of those fans (I will call them Pyromancers for no specific reason).

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What Dragonflight did to Nozdormu and the Infinite Dragonflight was unforgivable. We saw Murozond for not even five seconds before “Nope, not happening!”. I could also go on a rant about how it feels weird that a regular Infinite Dragon like Deios can warp a pre-Aspect Nozdormu into a being stronger than himself, but I’ll not derail.

I just hope we will see them again, seeing as in Cataclysm the Infinites pretty much fought on the side of the Old Gods.

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You’re in luck because in 10.2.7 we’ll be helping them to catalogue the history of Pandaria as good friends.

(Don’t ask why the reality-destroying dragons are now just historians)

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Because unlike the bronze, they don’t care about true timeline. And if the future would be as good as Pandaria, then I’m with the infinites.

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That’s how they get you.

Also, I’m gonna be honest, come out and say it: I like Wow’s idea of timetravel. Atleast as it was up until Cataclysm, either just to safeguard important historic events ( and giving us an excuse to visit them so that younger players can see these pivotal moments in lore too), or when we had to play a part in securing the Dragon Soul against Deathwing.

Then we got hit with WoD and “One Legion across all dimensions…”

In fact, I even like the Dawn of the Infinite megadungeon, plotholes regarding Nozdormu’s corruption aside.

I also liked the idea of the alternate universes where one force won, for RP purposes I think it’d be funny to explore the eternal war between Alliance and Horde one ( could they honestly not come up with better names than the Blood Horde and the Great Glorious Alliance, really?).

You guys might’ve missed it; but Nozodormu showed them that changing the timeline in a small way might have dire consequences at that same moment.

He showed how saving one infinite Dragons’ Bronze Sister meant the end of her AND her offspring, or how saving her meant the end of her offspring regardless.

He showed her that while there are ways to save somebody, the consuquence will always be someone else dying in their place and that you cannot calculate and prevent every outcome. Ofcourse they can still try and sway time in certain directions where possible and needed with the help of both Flights.

So now they’re allied with the Bronze Dragonflight and curate time together, under my favorite lizard, Nozzy.

I am fine with that, we can still use holdouts of Infinites as enemies, and we can also use those that survived under Deios and want to change their approach as allies alongside the Bronze and give them a broader perspective of time itself instead of the singulair approach they used to have

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I would be fine with this if it was written that way but also like. . .the Bronze have never ever cared for having a singular perspective of time, these guys have changed time so much it is ridiculous. They sent Humans back to help fight in the WOTA.

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Okay but no it didn’t have to

We coulda just killed the evil dragons and saved everyone

I’ve done harder stuff before, and we had three other dragons - including Nozdormu! - as backup.

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Shhhh, time has to be this way, the Aspect of Time said so

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That’s why the Infinites are a thing!!! Because no it doesn’t!!!

He was told by big bearded Titan this.
But who told the Titan?!

It was written into his code when he was assembled at Zereth Ordo by the First Ones.

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(SCREAMS)

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