PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 3)

I mean, no? The Djaradin were one of the primary foes on Dragon Isles and in the expac, featured in all three raids. Igira - a Djaradin Elder - literally crafted Fyrakk the weapon to tear a portal into the Dream or whatever. They were featured repeatedly, how can you call this irrelevant?

I don’t think your average Joe is going to really notice what’s going on in icons anyway, I wouldn’t really put too much stock on this as even the artist probably just created the icon based on the name. This just feels like semantics.

‘The Djaradin aren’t really involved with the Dracthyr other than all the times they are involved with them.’

Shogganosh already pointed out how they were created to serve the Aspects, and Djaradin were the dragon-killers. So, they very much so are intrinsically involved with the Dracthyr.

Just because they don’t interest your negative nancy self doesn’t really make them irrelevant. :person_shrugging:

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As a reach perhaps, but we also see the Primalists, at least around the Ruby Shrine, using Elemental Giants to attack?

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The djaradin have a big ol one at the Obsidian Citadel

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The Monkey Paw curls

“The vale is restored, no more old god invasion but the mobs remain scaled to 80 and in greater density.”

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About to get very Not Zen with ya’ll…

The djaradin are relevant to the dragon isles/dragonflight, but to the Dracthyr specifically? Enough to get a Mastery named after them? Nah, that’s a massive stretch.

It’s not a huge thing, but if you search “dracthyr” on the djaradin wowpedia page…nothing, and ditto for “djaradin” on the dracthyr page. The dracthyr quests never seemed oriented around them either - like, at all. There weren’t any in the Forbidden Reach, as I recall. The djaradin in the Walking Shores were enemies of the dragons (red+black), with the dracthyr basically having zero relevancy there.

The ones in Zaralek were associated with the dragons (since they were the focus not of the dracthyr quests but of Wrathion/Sabellian/Ebonhorn), and that they were foes in Aberrus isn’t related to the dracthyr specifically either. They were both just aiming for the same secrets of Neltharion.

All that to say the link between dracthyr and djaradin specifically is very tangential, especially when djaradin are **half-**giants.

No, it doesn’t really matter, but acting like the dracthyr and djaradin are deeply intertwined?? come on

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I see the point, but it’s also pretty easy to imagine the Dragonflight’s enemies = also the Dracthyr’s enemies (considering the whole point of their creation). Would make sense that they would have SOMETHING to be able to kill Djaradin.

I agree though, it’s a stretch to assume Djaradin is the reason for Giant-Killer. You could, arguably, say that giants = incarnates = reason for giant-killer, but who knows :dracthyr_shrug:

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Neltharion should’ve made dracthyr gnomesized so that everything is giant to them.

Just proving once again he’s a bad scientist.

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To be fair, in comparison to the dragons/djaradin/primalists, they are gnome sized. Just put a dracthyr next to Alexstrasza f.e.

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I don’t see what’s there to argue over. As is, even the average adult proto-dragons are large enough compared to the dracthyr to be called giants, not to mention the Incarnates and their retinue. With them being the prime enemies… a giant-killer seems like an appropriate name for the DPS specialization.

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In matters of scale, everything (including other Dragonkin) is bigger than Dracthyr.

They punch well above their weight regardless of literal or metaphorical scale.
Sometimes it ain’t that deep :stuck_out_tongue:

That’s how it looks to me.

The shoulderpads have faces on them, while Elune has never been depicted in any kind of humanoid form in night elf culture.

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And with how the tarot in question were likely made by humans IC (and probably DKs with the amount of SL references), I’m not surprised to hear that the armor was made for Gilnean druids above anyone else.

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Also, at any rate, moon iconography isn’t exclusively NElf, anymore.

This could’ve just aswell been a set created for an Sisterhood of Elune for the Nightborne especially since their architecture show alot more crescent moon symbols then any NElf buildings do.

You know what. I am going to headcanon that. It looks like something a Highborne claiming to be a Priestess of the Moon would wear

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Elune banged Malorne

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should have been me :pensive:

I hold to my headcanon that cenarius was the true first druid and reflects the extent to which a kaldorei can mutate under the influence of nature magic.

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nah trolls were doing it before that smelly four legs

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Really throws into question why they were so obsessed with their own perfection when exposing them to a lil’ magic, regardless of its origins seems to have dramatic and long lasting consequences.

I’m sure there’s more elf/troll branches than there are Dwarves, Humans, Draenei, etc…