Leafing through the lore summary there’s more thought put into this retcon than most of the Shadowlands’ races.
Blizz’s inability to admit when they screwed up, and go back and fix things, is… tiring. Very tiring.
"Oh, but you can’t delete CoNtEnT!
You’ve left 90% of the game mouldering in a shallow grave for literal decades, kindly explain to me the difference?
[Snark] That’s a bit like saying there’s bodies of water deeper than puddles [/snark]
At some point it becomes immersion breaking. I sorta draw the line at Allying with Adolf to stop Stalin.
Pandaria and Draenor legendary quest chains say hello. How many raid tiers are we to sacrifice to get them back, I wonder.
Oh no, oh no.
I really like Ethereals, I’d been dying to see K’aresh and now I’m really wishing they’d never given them attention again at all.
Why can’t some things just be as they were presented to us once before? Why did the Ethereals being blasted apart by Dimensius and bandaging themselves up need to be retconned and explained as part of some complicated plot from the current villain?
Reads like fanfiction. If it’s official lore, then… welp.
:looks at all the content they deleted:
Y… Yeah!
I am still mad about the LORE RELEVANT LEGENDARY QUESTLINES…
I read some of the spoiler stuff here: https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraftlore/comments/1lf1zj7/major_ptr_spoilers_112_lore_reveals_a_summary/
Changing the context of the Ethereal’s worlds destruction does not seem good to me.
Also they’ve making Headless Horsemen assembles in four recolours:
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I’m willing to give it all a chance before I make any real judgement. All of those brief descriptions don’t give me enough information for me to damn it outright.
But if there is one thing I do dislike, it’s the “time escalation,” the insane amount of years Blizzard tacks on to ancient events in order to them seem more important, constantly pushing for bigger and bigger time gaps in order to make things seem more and more ancient.
Ethereals puttering around the Twisting Nether for a hundred thousand years is a bit too ridiculous for my liking.
I remember well similar brief descriptions when SL was just announced. Almost everyone called it a bad idea from the start, merely due to the themes stated, and suddenly, it turned out even worse! If an entire Ethereal world is Argus’d to the point of having but a few zones in what could be an entire planet, I’ll call it the same mistreatment they did to Argus, everything else aside. It’s just another case of putting an expansion’s worth of ideas into a single patch. Same as Undermine. Same as Nazjatar. Same as Ny’alotha. Same as the Emerald Dream. And the list goes on and on.
Yeah making things 100k years old or even 10k years in the context of Alleria and Turalyon is silly. In reference of those two, twenty plus odd years is a hell of a long time by our standards - let alone this timeframe for Ethereals.
As I understand it, writers sometimes do ridiculous timeframes to allow periods of change and justify modifications to characters or concepts. For example, ten years is a lot of time to reflect - imagine what ten thousand can do for development etc.
Thank the heavens we did not get an entire expansion’s worth of Undermine or Goblin adjacent stuff.
Okay, this is where I’ll say “hold your horses,” because I don’t think K’aresh has enough meat for it to serve as the basis of an entire expansion. Basically all of the information we have regarding K’aresh comes from two hundred words written in an Ask CDev interview and that is it. Before the broker retcon, the only known species with any ties to K’aresh was the ethereals.
I disagree that an entire expansion could have been made out of K’aresh.
Argus, yes.
Nazjatar, yes.
Emerald Dream, yes.
Ny’alotha, could have at least been a zone.
Undermine, could’ve been a lot bigger than it is, what we got is tiny.
But K’aresh? No, I don’t think that could have been mined for an entire expansion’s worth of content.
Me after I just finished blowing up a city as an epic prank: nooo hahah I don’t want to blow you up more Trust me
I am mildly curious how the Dark Heart got into Neltharion’s hands but I guess the process was Xalatath has it->Brings it to Azeroth->Loses it when the Old Gods shoved her into the knife->Neltharion recovered/found it after the Black Empire got exploded->Put it in his “deal with later” void storage (heh).
If we just have to get a space theme, here’s a short list of what can be done there even with the current lore.
Ethereal cartel squabbles, the same way they did in Outland, for the sake of resources, artifacts and whatnot. Basically similar to Undermine, but in space, with us working with different parties for the research, intelligence and whatever else we may need in the war to come.
Shadowguard issues and their connection to the outer Void. Exactly what we have now.
Legion remnants trying to survive the suddenly hostile Great Dark, fighting themselves and occasional Illidari hunting parties. This alone can be quite a hoard of stories, giving us the direly needed lore updates on the DHs, Petinents and the Army of the Light.
Void elves’ research projects, both regarding the Void corruption and the space outside Azeroth, maybe with the theme of finding a replacement to the Sunwell for their tainted ilk.
And to give something to the Horde as well, Nightborne and AU Shadowmoon astromancers can take part in it too, simply because how far the ethereal data can advance this magical practice. Even if it isn’t an expansion’s worth of content on its own, it’s at least enough to be far more than a single patch.
“Additional content is planned after Patch 11.2, but Ghosts of K’aresh was mentioned as the last “major content update” coming to The War Within.”
Oh. Okay then.
The more I read about the modern Shadow / Void philosophy it just appears to be the Sith and the dark side of the force.