Im playing feral druid for years now and i havent seen it this bad before , almost every pure dps classs has more survivability when it comes to def cds and self heals , i did many arenas now and pure dps class does like 8m healing and meanwhile i do 3m max with heart of the wild on top , why is this game going upside down every expac? dh passively heals more , warriors heal more than me , what the actual edited by moderator is this?
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Thats the way it should be
not really , a pure dps class should not outheal a hybrid , maybe in your little world yes but not in this one
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Feral Healing feels Kinda Fine when it comes to Selfheal
when it comes to heal your Mates, its really Terrible, and not a global cd Worth, and this shouldnt be like that, they have to buff or rework the Pvp Talent Strength of the Wild.
he´s just trolling dont get baited xd
thats not a problem because your heal is bad (which it is ofc) but its, because other classes are too overpowert when it comes to healing
i can understand, why blizz nerfed our heal, because in bfa or shadowlands, everytime when my heal was in cc and my mate in a kidney, i could single heal him in a full kidney with just regrowth, counterplay was to kick it ofc but with the pvp talent Strength of the Wild and enough haste it was really difficult to kick
but it also makes no sense why other classes heal more especially warrior and dk, they should nerf the heal from these classes, if they nerf Hybrid heal, they have to nerf pure dps heal aswell lmao
that pure dps classes can heal, makes no sense at all
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it just feels like their hp is not moving at all and mine moves while i got hotw+ sotw talented on top of every single healing recieved talented and yet i see them passively healing … a pure dps class shouldnt have any heals imo , but if they doo buff our healing then on their level so i can atleast live .
exactly that not just those but mages and dhs , just dumb to see those walking around outhealing all my hybrid toolkit i got , its really tilting cause feral could solo carry if played well but then our kit keeps gettting degraded every xpac and its tilting me so much, we got our healing nerfed , we dont have range bonus anymore and we are dps class that feels like im playing a blood dk when it comes to hp movement.
this is my argument here and yeah it shouldnt be a thing and if it is let hybrids have better healing
I hope its like this forever
in your dreams buddy
In my dreams? Its already reality lol
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The correct thing to do is a moderate mix of the two.
- Nerf all pure DDs self-healing in PvP, including warriors, mages, DKs, DHs, hunters and a lesser extent, rogues and locks. Their sustain should be reduced by something like 30%.
- Buff hybrid healing numbers by up to 50% (depending on the spec, some specs have it worse than others).
Also, nerfing specs with oppressive damage and CC (thinking mages, fury, aff warlocks and others) will make healing feel better for hybrids.
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The moment i top myself with flash of Light heals i go oom as ret.
Just love how warrior or hunter can heal for 70% HP in a global and they don’t use any of their resource while me as ret if i try to heal i oom once i’m full HP.
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In df and sl it was you hybrids healing for that, now its our turn. Simple as that. If you dont like it then play hunter/warrior 
Feral is absolutely fine with healing, damage, cc and defensives. Perfectly balanced class, idk what is your problem.
If you want healing to be nerfed, it should be a nerf of every healing ability for dps classes, even ferals.
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I agree on feral being fine but some dps classes really should have their healing reduced
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What kind of reasoning is this ?
…No we don’t ? If a class/spell is fine, why gut it ?
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what is PURE DPS CLASSES
there hasn’t been such a thing in a long time…
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main point is if there are hybrids with whack defensives like druids we should have some sort of self healing , like heart of the wild is 5 min cd , the only use it has now is for fast cast cyclone and bear frenzy , it would be nice if we could have use it for our self heals.
yeah pure dps classes heal more than hybrids and its tilting me alot when i played arenas , i as feral feel like a walking target dummy at this point.
its not.
play it , que up tell me how far you will come playing it
yeah our non existant healing sure , meanwhile your class passively heals better than me when im a “Hybrid” and you are a "PURE DPS CLASS" did i made it clear for you? a Pure dps class shouldnt heal at all. Whats the point of having a hybrid class if the class toolkit with healing is worse than pure dps class. the whole game is upside down.
Dh, Warrior, Your class (Mage), Dk and Lock.
Main thing is that classes i mentioned above should not have better self heals than hybrid classes , classes i mentioned already have better toolkits with defs , mobility not to mention mage with 2x block and alter , Perfectly balanced yeah … and then the toxic ports with knockbacks and if youre frost you have bonus perma slow with root procs
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Haha, so gladiators are rating feral as A-tier at least, and this guy saying feral is not okay.
Maybe it’s skill issue then.
I’m playing feral myself as a second main and it is strong rn in every aspect of pvp.
The only situations where feral struggles are playing vs frost mages, but frost mages are broken atm.
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There are not that many pure dps classes. It’s Hunter, Mage, Rogue and Lock. All others are either Heal/dps, Tank/dps or hybrids of all 3.
If we were balancing around inlcuding other roles of the class we would include all of them and not just heal.
Tanks have mitigation and/or self heal to be tanky while healers are able to heal yourself and others.
Warriors Tanks have mitigation, so nerf warrior self healing and buff dmg mitigation. DK and DH tanks however heal themselves alot, so self healing is appropriate here as some examples
Heal hybrids can heal other players, tank hybrids can’t.
If we were to include perks of these roles and balance around it, the damage, mitigation and heal profile of all classes would have to be adjusted so paladins and druids won’t have benefits of everything without a single weakness. Pure dps classes would do the most damage, followed by Tank/dps and Heal/dps hybrids while hybrids of all 3 would do the least amount of damage.
huh? When exactly were these classes a “PURE DPS”? 15 years ago? Most of them never?
The term “hybrid class” is outdated and should not be used.
i mean yeah, but currently it makes no sense to do that, in previous expansions, both was worth, and depends on the situation
i dont know, if solo shuffle is the reason or, m+ because they gave pure dps classes also heal, to survive in higher m+ levels, pure dps class without heal would be unplayable in m+ this was the reason why bm hunt was so weak even when his dmg profile was so broken
the thing is, what is this designe philosophy, why cant they just nerf pure dps heal, buff his dps like u said, and buff Healing in pve/ m+ environment, i have heard, that many peoples dont want to heal in m+ either, because it´s so healer unfriendly, and healer relies on cd usage/ + Selfheal from his dps by too much
it´s fine, hybrids Shouldnt do the same Dmg as an warrior, they should have short burst windows, with less overall dmg, but a good toolkit which is situational, like cc, heal, root support