Are you guys enjoying bgs while playing caster class? Especially on warlock I’m getting exhausted by melee cleave. I use all my portals, mobilities, cc and bursts and still 2 melee can easly counter me.
Melee can burst all their abilties while walking and I can’t do anything. I’m not a newbie player. It’s been more than 10 years I do pvp. On shadowlands every classes were broken and casters had oppurtunity to one-shot everyone. On dragonflight you can’t escape from melee cleave.
Should I play melee class to enjoy from bgs? I spend my most of time on battlegrounds.
And what your thoughts about caster classes on huge fights
Guess what happens if 2 wizards fight 1 melee? He gets melted in under 15 seconds through all cds. Game isnt designed for 2v1. Bring pots, flasks, gliders, bloody token buffs, etc, if you want to 2v1 people at your gear level consistently
What do you mean? Do meeles suddenly lose the mobility and interrupts in shuffle?
Try playing destro lock into a fury, enhancement, dh lobby. GL casting anything at all. Fury can press 1 2 3 like an ape and delete your whole defensives in 2 seconds.
He is saying that in BGs they are more enjoyable because you can kite in a straight line, use gliders, sprint pots etc. In Arena you for the most depending on spec rely like 50% of the time on your healer to help you kite and survive or you’ll just die in 45 seconds after you rotate through all your defensives and micro CCs. LoS for the most part doesn’t exist in BGs so you don’t have to worry about people turtling near a pillar and only coming out when they have their CC and mini defensives.
Theres a lot more opportunity for individual skill expression and showcasing game knowledge, whereas in Arena it is your Mes’s WeakAura package spamming alerts at you every few seconds, your eyes staring at sArena to track DRs for you and your healer playing the game for you.
bgs you can legit give up the fight and come back later with cds, or attempt a reset, invi, and try ninjacap the objective call for help and stall, arena is legit armwrestling, but sometimes enemies have 2 arms and you got 1, and you keep doing pushups or watching Devon Larrat workouts to try to beat 2 godamn arms, and mayeb they get 3 arms if your team use leap of faith at wrong time.
yesterday, i was trying to land a sheep on enemy healer (rshaman) and has dh and fury on me
Sheep > fake > kick > sheep > grounding > target gorunding fireblast > sheep fake > kick > shaman lines me > sheep/shimmer > fake > precog proc > sheep, my ret just aoes and breaks it > nova, move 5 feet, nova breaks off my ret aoe dps > both back on me > sheep > fake, he doens’t kick me, sheep > fake, he doesn’t kick me, sheep > no fake, he kicks me, Dragons breath > ring of frost > my db gets broken by my retri > he moves out of ring > shimmer behind him > blastwave > he grounding randomly and probably doesn’t even know grounding stops blastwave knocks kekw, sheep > fake > precognition proc > sheep + shimmer for his lining MY PRIEST, LEAPS ME, and i legit, walk away from my desk and go grab something to drink.
disarm doesnt even work vs half the melee though and it doesn’t stop any kicks either. Disarming a WW only stops fist of fury I believe. Disarming a warrior and they can still tclap, roar, shockwave, kick. DK disarm is only good to stop deathstrikes unless they’re frost, then its pretty good.
Sub rogue and fury warrior and MM hunter are probably the best disarm targets right now.
Only recently they made disarm stop a paladin from using final verdict.
This is the exact experience. Dont really know what game everyone is playing here on the forums, but I had precog proc maybe 1 every 2-3 games. Once. Its probably not even worth fake casting because everyone has godlike reflexes apparently, at 1500 mmr meeles play like gods, always kick at the last 0.2 seconds of the cast, can fake cast 2-3 times they never buy it. Its insane dunno.
i get precog proc every 10 seconds, and they even hthrow random stuns at me when im immune to try to stop my casts, and press reflect at random times too, but they still get me to close 3/3 as OP MAGE
i need to git gud
what? half of my rounds I lost on my warrior were because either myself or the other DPS or our shaman gave precog to a boomkin, spriest or destro lock and we got cooked. Precog is insanely OP + strong right now. I’m abusing the hell out of it on my boomkin atm and i’m 16-4
precog giving you total CC immunity is the craziest thing they’ve added to the game in years. Its so strong that even ferals are running it. Hell if I had a cast on my warrior i’d 100% use it as well. I’ll probably put it on my demon hunter and cancel my eyebeams and get 5 seconds of 15% haste + CC immunity. Hell yeah
Like I said, the lobbies I got into, everyone suddenly played like gods, didnt buy into any fake casting, if they were 2 meele they somehow rotated interrupts perfectly back to back to make sure I was a target dummy all game. But have not played much yet so I’ll see how it goes.
Demo lock as I mentioned. Tried destro, but have half the buttons on my dh even, feels super brain dead rotation and gameplay wise.
Not comfortable enough with affli yet.
I have 2 games played on it yet, went 3-3 and 4-2 at around 1650-1700mmr, but felt real tryhard. Both were meele lobbies with me solo caster.
Casters are often unplayable in BGs due to melee dominance.
It is impossible to cast against a melee class, and melee classes cannot be kited either. I can play at the top of my skill and some melee zugzug still manages to win most of the time.
Yeah, but melee classes don’t need these things to perform well. That is the problem.
