I never said they aren’t, rogues are extremely op right now, as few other classes and it’s caused by covenants, covenants imho should be permanently removed from pvp, all of those abilties, they aren’t the core mechanic of any class and shouldn’t be.
Despite the fact they burst fast in lower brackets - it’s simple you can’t climb to a free glad with your two buttons.
tbh i never killed a war in 2s opener (at least an intelligent one), they always trinket fear, trinket storm, trinket DBS+bladestorm if i’m not in evasion, warbanner the F out of my cc etc.
if any warrior dies in opener from rogue this is a l2p issue
That is not true. I played the beta for month, the better the gear gets, the lower ww damage becomes. It’s commonly known that ww doesn’t scale well with gear while other classes do.
In extreme short games, that ends with monk burst rotation (30 second fights with double SEF, xuen, kyrian, etc.) ww damage is very high, especially if he can cleave 2+ targets. But in longer games, that used to happen to good teams, the damage will decrease rapidly as the sustained is behind other classes.
WW is s-tier without a doubt, but the damage potential isn’t the highest and has it counterplay. But the burst of a sub rogue or boomy is even more extrem while the sustained of a warrior or udk is a lot better than ww sustained. So everything what he said was actually correct.
You mean if the opponent doesn’t have trinket and hasn’t pre-walled anything. On a mage or rogue or something, that can still happen, yes. But it’s supposed to be that way, or? If I use every damage cooldown on a blanket target in a stun, it’s supposed to die!
Nobody puts arms or ww on the same tier like sub rogue.
But enhance falls over when you look at him, unlike arms or ww
Ascendance + doom winds + chain harvest is the dmg that we got, because you cannot kite doom winds when ascendance is up, so if you cc while ascendance is up its gg. After that the dmg is really trash, especially on plate.
If we take ele blast, then doom winds does no dmg anymore. Overall stupid design
Pretty sure at least chain harvest will be trashed after 1-3 weeks.
also this thread is hilarious because everyone says nerf this and that so pretty much nerf everyone? D:
hey you need to press 3 buttons in the correct order, nowadays that counts as big preparation and big brain
I complain about nothing, I find it funny and ridiculously stupid that ppl try to hide WW but talk about arms.
And spare me your pathetic never ending whining about ww and how they are NOT strong or op.
You’ve been doing it all BFA, you keep doing it now, get a grip.
Ret and enh off healing is bonkers, indeed. Also, so far, except shammy, it seems like all other healers are also able to run out of mana in the course of a match.
Currently I play mostly with a friend running rsham, we’ve oom-ed druids and palas, fastest to oom is priest of course, but indeed on the shammy he never runs out of mana.
It’s not even a point where he thinks about it as a resource at the moment
Are you getting lost kid? You still don’t understand, do you?
Keep on whining about ww, it’s bad and weak, just as pathetic as you.
Only total failures IRL would wave rating here and I bet I understand and know more about game design that you will ever do.
Unlike you, who is just a monkey, good at playing a super strong class, I have designed successful games, and enjoy playing such with friends instead of lacking IRL purpose and ego and trying to shove up rating on the forums to make myself feeling better.
Told you, you are pathetic.
Trust me if you get to free cast you will go OOM as Shaman too. Was the shaman running around in circles as ghostwolf? When I get to kite people who think they can kill me my mana is always 100% lol
I agree though Shaman mana is better than any other healer atm
Imagine trying to connect irl with wow. Youre the biggest joke of a human being and prolly should just take a step back from gaming in general.
I mean you don’t have any success whatsoever in wow anyway. Trying to stay relevant by shouting out low rated facts towards my class while playing the 2 most broken speccs. Arms is even better than WW u horse.
yes, actually nothing changed with shamans mana.
Watershield does a little i guess but apart from that it was the riptide buff that actually makes shamans not go oom
Wow you are really a total clown.
Success in wow? Success…in…playing a game? You are so pathetic that you can’t even understand what you are talking. I consider it fine if I have fun with friends playing the game.
You talk about “success” in the game.
Maybe you should watch some top streamers then if you value that much, they all say ww is super good and is top notch.
But i guess you are such a failure anywhere else, that you need to keep spouting about “success” in pushing pixels and jump on anyone that expresses an opinion about monk that is not the same as yours.
Now, I really just pity you.
Probably both Divine Toll and Ringing Clarity conduit too, imo.
Though if I wanna be honest, I truly think that Ringing Clarity is much more of an issue. Divine Toll in itself might be alright. It’s the sheer number of Judgments that gets thrown at the enemy which is dumb.
I mean, from my perspective/personal experience so far, I could argue that the “mantle” you’re describing easily goes to Warlock mains, actually.
Bottom line is: No. It says nothing. People are people.
You are quoting yourself now?
Repeat with me:
“A high rating in WoW will not help me resolve my irl issues which make me such a poor human being jumping on ppl and not being able to think logically.”
Starting to look like you need help.
Are you talking to yourself as well?
If you cc ww during sef and kyrian, it’s also gg and the damage becomes trash. So what’s you point? WW is heavily burst depended and it has its counterplay. But that is the class design. We aren’t arms or dks or dhs with high sustained. Even though dh is not longer on that good dps spot to be fair.
It’s more like that you need to farm chi before (2-3 gcds), have to get xuen out (another gcd), have to combine it with Kyrian (another gcd), so it’s actually a lot of time before you can get started compared to other classes and also a lot of time to react for the opponents.
If you start to get things out during stun, you drop already 2 gcds of that stun.
Nobody is hiding WW, but arms is probably a bit above right now and this difference becomes bigger than smaller with better gear. He also isn’t saying that WW is not strong but clearing out some missthinking of some people.
He is just shortening the discussion with you. With the quote everything is said.
