" is to get wrecked by random dude that have +120 ilevel than you (300 ilevel is pretty much your state when you ding)."
Just ding and buy the cheap green 398 i level pvp gear from the AH.
9/9 gear upgrades?
You realise thatâs just a way of upgrading pvp gear for PvE? Getting it maxed out doesnât change the i level in pvp.
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Its an mmoRPG not a moba or fps game. Gear should matter in PvP.
Put effort into your character and youâll be strong its that simple. But even strong characters can get beaten by better players and thats how it should work.
Arena was and always will be a mistake.
Its an mmoRPG [âŚ] RP should matter in PvP.
Its an mmoRPG [âŚ] Only playing in group should matter in PvP.
If those sentence feel illogical to you and out of context, gear should even more. Gear isnât what an MMORPG is about, guys. Gear is more a byproduct of the fantasy world theme than anything else. 
You can only upgrade a gear if you have a certain CR though. Sure its only useable in PvE but thats a huge bonus. You can literally start doing +15 keys or mythic raid.
And due to what I mentioned above; it feels pretty pointful to push that high rating.
In Shadowlandsâ system, you did not get stronger. I am pretty surprised people canât understand that if you hit 1400 cr, upgrade your gear from 400 to 410, it wonât matter, because your opponents too will have 410 ilvl at/around that cr. So you do get stronger on paper but because it is not relative to anything, it has zero impact.
This only matters in battlegrounds. I personally find people that wanna rofl stomp newbies or people without gear to be extremely toxic. You are basically saying that overall you absolutely donât care about othersâ experience as long as you get to enjoy yourself. That is a bit disgusting.
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Sorry but no. I disagree with you on everything. The gearing revamp in PvP is one of the best things in DF.
I like the way gw2 does its gearing or more like the lack of it. I have the freedom to choose the build, the stats, the weapons. I am glad Blizzard are moving more into that direction.
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MMORPGs are about making your character stronger and this includes PVP.
The end
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PvP gearing is easy and if you want the stronger vriant you have to do rated content, you can get a few pieces via crafting as well.
I for one like that I dont have to spend 190k honor to max out honor gear. Per character.
NO it shouldnât matter
If you go into arena you should be on the same ilvl as your opponent because PVP is about outplaying your opponents with your skill not with 20 ilvl higher like it used to be 
Just go play wotlk if you really want that mmorpg pvp
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No. /10char
More seriously, I could possibly agree with you, IF wow pvp was designed like DAoC or Eve Online, for example. In other words : if all PvP that mattered in wow was not limited to an instance and everything that happened within that instance (beside rating) is reset once you leave that instance.
Now, you can say that wow is not a moba or lol, but pvp in wow is fitting the definition of a moba really well : you get into an instance/lobby kill some dudes, complete an objective limited to that instance/lobby, and thatâs all.
So⌠No, you donât deserve gear.
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That is your personal opinion. Mine is exactly the opposite.
I like how gw2 deals with its âgearingâ in PvP & WvW. From what I hear FF14 is similar(I may be wrong).
So your The End is wrong.
Of course 90% of the people will not agree with me. Noone likes to work hard for anything if they got the choice to get it more easily. Classic human behavior.
But that doesnât mean its healthy for the game to make everything more easy to obtain just because we have cry babies that refuse to accept that sometimes its ok to lose (getting beated by a geared player in this context). Losing will turn into passion. And passion is what this game needs.
Cant you see anything these days turn into trash? movies, games, hobbies, anything. And thats simple because we become too sensitive and convenient. Please dont put wow on the list as well.
There is a reason modern wow declined in players. And most of the wow players preffering still the old versions of the game. DF is actually good and in the right direction simple because they started to give a bit of more oldschool flavors to the game. That combined with modern stuff its awesome. But making pvp gear worthless is not a good direction.
p.s. im fine to have a starting pvp gear easy to get almost as good as the top gear. But top gear should still be A BIT more powerful. I repeat, this is not a moba game. Who preffer that, go play lol, cs:go etc.
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