PvP-Gearing in Shadowlands is a complete mess!

And, yes I do write this into the general forum because in the PvP-forum it will not get the traction it deserves.

Here’s a thread from the US-forum showing the absurdity. To get your honor gear on the same level of LFR (190) you would need to play 627 battlegrounds. That’s 6.5 days of playtime doing nothing else than queuing up for BGs. No Torghast for legendaries, no WQs or anything else pure BG farming.

(For comparison purposes: Mythic dungeon rewards you with 183 gear.)

And that is not all!

The video talks about aforementioned difficulties, but also about another problem: Many of the PVP-items don’t even have the stats you want on your class. You only have a very limited pool of items available…conquest items.

Give us back WoD-PvP-gear. Let it scale upwards in PvP so that conquest gear can match Mythic-raiding gear in a PvP-scenario. If you want to keep the upgrades than let it raise the base-item-level so you can use your PvP-gear in other environments as well. (Though to be honest I’d rather remove it completely.)

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Yep. I’m fine with pvp gearing requiring some pve to be optimal, as well as pve requiring some pvp gear to be in the top 5% on the server. But beyond that, every bit of content should be sufficient.

If none of the cloth gear offered by the pvp vendor is actually good for pvp… why bother with it? Not to mention the variety of gear offered by the vendor is just pathetic. It doesn’t exist. In my opinion, half the gear available from dungeons should just be slapped on the pvp vendor.

Also, bring a pvp stat. I used to be against it, not anymore. The excuse that you’d need multiple gear sets if there was a pvp stat is garbage, because you already need multiple gear sets for pve and pvp.

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I don’t see the problem with having to do PVE to get gear in a PVE game

I think PvP-scaling on the items themselves is sufficient enough similar to MoP and WoD. In a sense it is PvP-stat.

And I don’t bother to answer the troll above me.

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“He has a different opinion he must be a troll !”

so pvp gearing will be done mainly in mythic +

good system :joy:

Seemingly yes. Considering that you can more or less spam out M0 the moment you reach 60 (well to a degree), why bother with farming Bgs for a sheer endless amount of time? Especially since you cannot even get the gear your class needs in the first place.

You aren’t supposed to farm random bgs for conquest.

Also you obviously can’t take opinions as you immediately called me a troll for having a different than yours :rofl:

It’s mostly because you don’t understand the problem in the first place, so there’s nothing of value to be won in discussing anything with you.

Considering your first statement was, “Well it’s a PvE-game?” Why should anyone bother discussing with you in a thread about PvP?

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If you do whole day :poop::poop::poop::poop:you get :poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop: from it.

Want better do rated.

The point is that the op implies you farm conquest via random bgs which is not realistic , no one does that , you farm conquest via arenas or rated bgs even tho rated bgs are extinct now

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You didn’t understand the problem either. I make it simple for you: Conquest gear is trash. It’s stats are worthless for several classes. Outside of the fact that honor gear takes forever to farm…while also not having the right stats in several cases.

Honor gear should be the way to get into PvP. Right now it’s essentially completely worthless, because grinding out Mythic is again the way to go to get your correct stats.

Only thing I agree gear with X stats and above LFR needs to require rating and currency to buy.
All unrated pvp=random heroics/LFR.

They’ve made it obvious enough that they want PvP gear to be terrible , last time PvP gear was good was in WOD and they don’t want to go back to that because it’ll lower pve participation

And what about Mythic+ gear? Outside of the fact that “Normal” nowadays is seemingly a joke and can be done by anyone.

Wod was joke.

But PvP gear was good you had stats options

That is rated you make your own group take people walk to dungeon and do harder content, higher you go better rewards.

No one with brain is expecting good gear from random match made group with the no ratings.

I agree only on options not farming :poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop:without rating to get better gear.

Is it really that hard? Is it really harder than let’s say reaching a certain ranking in PvP? How do you want to balance this out? Let’s say Mythic 5 is the equivalent to…what ranking? 500? 1000? More? Less?

Please elaborate how do you want to balance it. It needs to be completely equal as otherwise one will be better than the other type.