PvP is amazing. Why don't you play it?

Of course. Legion was the worst in terms of pvp gear. Hate it even more than I currently hate DF.

yeah, sure. That’s why nobody plays it.

No mate, its not. DF gearing is almost as bad as legion was. There’s no point to play pvp games now. I repeat, no point in farming that honor or hitting that rating.

I won’t argue with you about PvP gear, because you’ve already been proven wrong in your own thread.
Nobody agrees with you. If you want to keep arguing about this, do so in the thread you made specifically for that purpose.

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There are only two reasons for me to do PvP.
First go Alterac to get my Frostwolf and Tabard for my Orcshaman Kraktor.
Second the Brawl: Comp Stomp. I do not like PvP and for me for the few instances I had to do it, I whas glad when it whas over.

I think many people are fearful of confrontation & competition; they fear losing. They know they aren’t very good and they don’t want to lose, so they choose not to play at all.

It reminds me of the type of people I often see in war mode. I attack them, but instead of fighting back, they’ll stand on the spot & spam emotes at me. They don’t want to risk the situation where they fight back but still lose the fight, else they think they are giving their opponent “satisfaction”.

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Or they are like me and are movementcripples. My experience from PvP is via swift movement to stay out of LoS while hitting them and so I am unsuited to PvP anyway.
I have problems with using skills and move at the same time so I prefer static gameplay classes like Paladin and casters. I know I am not really good for PvE so PvP I am one of those that let them be killed when playing WM because for me this is merely a mode to get more rep and exp while getting Classic abilities back and I knew I am no match anyway.
Or as someone explained on a discussion on the Total War forum about elite troops:
“Not everyone is capable of being an elite soldier. Some are grail knights and then there are for example the Bretonnian peasants who are only suitable for things like shoot your arrow somewhere in this area.”
I am the peasant who could on PvP Battlegrounds shoot AoE spells somewhere arround or try with focus fire but do not expect from me kill an enemy player on my own.
My last experience with PvP outside hybrid BGs like Korrak’s Revenge whas during the MoP legendary Cloak questlines and all the flame from the other players on why so many Noobs have insult here that should stay away because of insult cloak.
Since then I decided I stay with PvE activities Dungeons and Quests and let the competitive guys their competitive.

With regards toxicity, tbh I always found PvE to be equally toxic, if not more so than PvP, especially as a solo player.

Pugging HC Castle Nathria the first week it released was the last real bit of PvE I did. Everyone flaming each other for mistakes, getting removed from raids without any pre warning. When you whisper the leader to ask why, they just put you on ignore.

Because, in my humble opinion WoW PvP is between the horrible and horrendous :roll_eyes:
Even SW:ToR have better PvP system
Or AION
Now this is just my two cents; nothing prevents you to love WoW PvP, but stating as a fact it is the best and most unique?
Lets just say no; not really

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Because only arena ever gets new stuff, and i dislike arenas. And doing the same bgs over and over gets stale. Epic bgs especially got little variety

Never have truer words been typed n this forum.

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Disagree. The trinket bonus reduces CC duration by 15% and people don’t coordinate CC in solo shuffle.

It’s never been less true than it is now.

Honestly? Cause I can’t compete. I used to PVP a lot on my characters back when we had scaling and anyone was more or less on the same level. Now, I enter a battleground, I’m food for geared players and that’s no fun for me and honestly nothing about it motivates me to change the pace I’m playing at to get geared up.

Dragonflight is actually the most friendly expansion for PvP gearing.
You can get a full set of honor gear in a day or two.

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It’s not. The friendliest was Legion. Good gar meant a up to 10% improved performance. Next to honor gear, good gear is, it’s what? 40%? More?

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Why? Because it’s boring and my idea of a rubbish time. I’ve never liked it and never will.

btw the op plays fistweaver which is the most broken and dumb by design which is one of the most complained thing after overtuned retri right now, the post is made to troll or taunt reaction it is quite clear

so either the op is really thicc, or like im suspecting is trolling you

but the arena forum is full of similar posts from retris defending their current state or acting delusional so perhaps this post belongs more on that section of forum than general, atleast would fit better with the rest similar posts there

Nope. You couldn’t have alts because you needed to grind your artifact weapon and you even needed to unlock your PvP talents, remember?

Right now I have 5 max level characters and they all had enough honor to buy a full set of gear BEFORE reaching level 70, just by spamming skirmishes during the leveling.

No? I play the regular Mistweaver playstyle.
My gear is full mastery, and you can even inspect my talents from the armory. Get your facts straight before making wild claims.

i mean i dont care enough of pvp currently to look u further than being a monk and if ure not playing fist on it then thats ur mistake i dont care what u do with your classes, and nobody cares about pvp right now because of what blizz did with retri and fistweaver

your post wondering about pvp on the current state of it would fit better on the arena section with the other delusional posts tho

The numbers and queue times agree with me :slight_smile:

I love pvp in wow, but I don’t think it’s high enough quality-wise imo to really dive deep into it, but I like it as a fun activity. I’m kinda sad with wow though, because it feels so dead for some reason… Maybe they should focus on making one single game mode, or two game modes, esports-compatible, and the rest should just be focused on fun and gearing for the average player. Tbh, I also don’t even think that arena is good for esports. WoW could be a good esports game, but arena is too old. It’s as if we had team deathmatch as an esport for cs:go. Maybe PvP could be changed to be a mix between pve and pvp. Maybe M+ or/and Arena could just be tuned for Esports, and raiding tuned purely for friends/family/pugs. I could even imagine creating a mix between PVP and M+ and have it be the one esports game mode. This could actually be insanely cool. This way they can relax on the balancing for raiding, and focus on the other.

playing monk right now with fistweavers and retris being the most complained and broken topic in pvp and then making post on general wondering why people dont play pvp

i mean that reads trolling pretty strong :joy:

and yeah, i dont care more of the matter you do you