Ow my alot more focus, well well those limit raiders are wf for nothing it seems it doesnt require focus.
You heal? Because PvE is easy right?
Indeed, I’m a healer main. Incredibly easy.
pve isn’t as hard as people think it is , yes it’s challenging but at the end of the day it’s scripted content that you learn every mechanic before doing it. it’s only hard for people doing it on ptr to write guides. on the other hand, pvp is also just about playing the better class and having good reflexes.
Pvpers get more seasonal rewards than any other endgame content combined…so you already get more rewards.
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M+ Rewords “end” at doing everythink at +20 in time, Weekly gear is caped at doing +20, you get 447, 15 give like 441,
You get transmog upgrade fore 2,5k score, mount is fore 2k
You alsow get Portals for doing dungeon in +20 in time
And sesonal Title for top 0.1 best scoress in region similar to sesonal Gladiator title from PvP
And about Difficulty comparasone geting mount for 2k score is similar to geting 1,8k rating in PvP, meby even 1,7k affter there no longer beeing sesonal affixes this seson
And one more time, PvP is not “harder”, mmr and rating systems in WoW are just stupid ,bug and blizz dont care to fix or change them
Wow every time op’s post are getting worse.
You must really need attention right?
Oh and no PvP it’s not harder than PvE
You’re already getting a mount skin and a title. What other rewards are you demanding?
WoW is primarily a PvE game, so most of the players aren’t interested in the PvP to begin with.
There are plenty of other games that offer a better PvP experience than what WoW can muster.
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But what do you consider better rewards? You can get a full 437 set of gear in one or two days from grinding random battlegrounds. And yes it’s PvP ilvl but you don’t need to upgrade PvP ilvls anymore only the PvE ilvl of the item is upgraded with honor.
Conquest gear is also easier to attain than 450 PvE gear. And if you don’t have the rank to upgrade then I guess you won’t be hitting that rare mob that hard no big deal.
As far as cosmetics go it’s always a question of taste. Whether you like the raid, KSM or gladiator mount better it’s a question of taste. If you like the mythic or elite set recolor it’s a question of taste. In my opinion sometimes the mythic and elite recolors are meh even if they try to give them cool effects and the normal or even LFR recolors look better.
You are rewarded better then pvers. In pvp
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It is how to say you have no idea about high-end PvE without telling it)
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Both raids and M plus require utility and are used.
This really reads as I’m a PvP player and I don’t understand what PvE players do 
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No they don’t.
In fact, they’re so little used that PvE players are complaining about “ability bloat” and asking for spells to be removed from the game.
This whining lead to the ability pruning of WoD, Legion and BFA where non-damage abilities were massively removed: all disarm and blanket CS effects in WoD, as well as utility spells such as Fear beast and Shackle undead in Legion and BFA.
Let’s not pretend you’re constantly using Disarm and Shackle Undead in your PvE encounters please.
I am wondering how often you use shackle undead in pvp.
And yes we are using our utility full time in pve too.
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Yes they do.
Utility is used in both M plus and Raids to combat mechanics the boss put out.
It’s okay not to understand another part of the game, not everyone plays all parts of the game.
Complaints of ability bloat have very little to do with whether someone is a PvE or PvP players.
I lost utility in the last revamp with the introduction of class trees. So now we have different builds for different affixes in M plus and sometimes for bosses in raids.
In M plus classes with certain utility are more desirable than others. In raids you need to ensure your comp can cope with all the abilities bosses throw at you.
pvp is very hard and does deserve better rewards.
most people are brain-dead and you get nothing done, and can´t do anything to get people on the same page.
there was this one time where I magically entered a pre-made Russian group and the dude was spammy with orders of what to do and where to go.
I wish we had more players like them Warhammer dudes, but we need some kind of motivation and the will of wanting to win.
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Examples for Ret Paladin (not an exhaustive list)
- Afflicted Affix - Cleanse Toxins
- Entangling Affix - Freedom Healer and we both get it
- Incorporeal Affix - Turn Evil/Repentence
- Bursting Affix - Divine Shield/Lay on Hands/Shield of Vengeance
- Tank/Team Member health/dealing with mechanic - Lay on Hands/Blessing of Sacrifice/Word of Glory
- Mitigate damage myself/Soak a Mechanic - Shield of Vengeance/Divine Shield/Divine Protection/Word of Glory/Lay on Hands/Flash of Light/Health Pot/Blessing of Protection
- Dead Member - Intercession
- Poisoned/Diseased - Cleanse
- Mobs Casting - Rebuke/Hammer of Justice/Blinding Light
- Damage Buff - Retribution Aura
- Movement Increase - Divine Steed/Blessing of Freedom
- Remove Snare/Slows - Blessing of Freedom
- Remove Beneficial Effect from Enemy - Arcane Torrent
That’s because you’re a PvE player, with less understanding of the game’s mechanics than I do.
Here, I will show you.
In this clip, the Death Knight uses Lichborne, which temporarily grants him the Undead status and makes him vulnerable to Shackle undead.
The Priest notices Lichborne, and tries to Shackle the DK.
The DK is extremely reactive, and manually cancels Lichborne.
The amount of game knowledge, decision making and reflexes required to perform in PvP are out of this world and PvE doesn’t even remotely compare.
Exactly. So it is situational, like you can’t use it in every dungeon.
I have played DK for quite a while myself. I know exactly what lichborne is doing.
You seem to lack understanding of the game mechanics yourself.
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But that’s my point. Most mechanics can’t be used in PvE.
The majority of raid bosses are immune to nearly all forms of CC and purges.
It’s just damage, damage, damage, and maybe occasionally CC an add or something.