I know I already made a topic about it, but since it has disappeared I thought I’d make a new one.
I think that currently, most pvp rewards are very underwhelming compared to previous expansions. I mostly think that cosmetic things for higher ratings and additional rewards for 2v2 are missing. Here’s what I’d do:
Keep the warfront recolor elite set for 1.8 rating in arenas and the dreadflame-like enchant for 2.1 rating, but:
Introduce an elite set for 2.2 rating that looks like the old cataclysm elite sets (not the same appearance, but the same effort)
Here’s an example:
Introduce a 2.4 enchantment that looks like the one in legion or MoP in a different colour.
Introduce a tabard for 2.6 that looks like the wotlk/mop ones that were actually different from the exalted pve tabards, currently there’s no difference.
Make the Gladiator bracket top 1% and require players to win 50 games in that bracket instead of making it 2.4 for the whole season.
Make the Rank 1 bracket top 0.2% and require players to win 50 games in said bracket
Introduce both of these brackets in 2v2 too, make the titles different from 3v3 but make them unique, for example: Instead of “Gladiator” and “Sinister Gladiator”, you would earn something like “Fighter” and “Sinister Fighter”.
Also cosmetic things aside, I think bonusrolls should give you higher item levels - Mythic raiders can bonus roll for 415 while PvP Players can only bonusroll for max 405 ilvl, it should also be 415 on 2.4 rating since it’s limited to 2 bonusrolls per week.
Tell me what you think, I’m not sure about that Rank 1 bracket thing but maybe it could work out to have all titles given out during the season? Arguable.
The Cataclysm Elite PvP sets are recolors of the raid class sets. So effort-wise less would have gone into it than in BfA where the Elite PvP sets have slightly unique models on top of also being recolors of the Warfront sets.
So what is it you like about the Cataclysm ones in particular?
Is it the dragon/raid theme?
Is it the color palette?
Is it the intrinsic shoulder design?
Is it the class fantasy?
Or something else?
Think you are misinformed, pvp and pve sets looked completely different in cataclysm. The first expansion where they had the same model was WoD - That’s also when WoW went downhill.
I just like how the pvp sets were easily recognizable and the design itself was pretty good too. They looked like someone has actually put effort into them to create a good looking suitable for a specific class. Also you could quickly tell when someone had elite gear due to the red scheme.
great post, somethings i would like to add that they can increase the pvp rng reward from doing arena since im having hard time gearing alts in pvp and dont want to do pve. and remove the coin from the bonus roll table since it takes an extra slot %.
pvp enchants reward feels little stupid because i dont feel like they are special anymore. they could add like a 2.6k reward and its like a effect on your char example ligthning going off around your char or having your fist on fire or smoke coming off you when you run.
Ah yes, you’re right.
They’re a recolor of the Conquest set, yeah? So a unique recolor basically.
I believe at one Blizzcon (can perhaps look it up) during an art panel they spoke about the inspiration behind some of the set designs. And at least for a period of the PvP sets, the inspiration was to have something that was suited for battle. Not something with lots of peacock feathers or such, but more gladiatorial or military style of an approach to the designs. And then they shifted back to the recolored raid sets. And now we have the overlap with the Warfront sets.
I’m not sure if I really prefer anything, but the desire for uniqueness makes sense.
The thing about your suggestions is that those effects already exist in the form of various toys. The Weather Machine comes to mind for the lightning effects. And there are also some toy boots and a consumable that set your footsteps on fire.
And yeah, the weapon illusion is a bit meh. I think I have 3 pages of weapon illusions in my collection tab. There’s hardly any color option missing at this point. And most weapons these days tend to have a default design that either comes with its own glow, or which has some cool detail that you don’t want to override with a neon lighting.
To be honest, I only recently “cared” about transmog sets. I think generally most rogue sets look like crap and transmogs are completely opinion based. I’d honestly prefer them to recolour every old set and allow you to “choose” a bit like vicious saddle on top of a unique set for the season so there’s something else to care about.
I’m also not convinced adding rewards only at the topish end of arena will help participation in any way. Arena is bearable but mostly horrendous because you cant gear in arena, certain classes or mechanics are just broken/completely unfun and once you get what you’re aiming for there’s not much else to do.
Alts are almost out of the question because gear actually matters now and gear + azerite + traits takes quite some time unless you’re a R1 god like Ziqo who can triple fire with greens.
Imo they should bring a 1v1 bracket back too; not because I like 1v1 (cos I don’t actually, its horribly imbalanced) but because they killed duelling/wpvp and it would be so trivial to implement. Although if they do, for the love of god don’t allow rogue/rogue mirrors or make like 10 eyes in the map appear after 60seconds.
the wod s1 sets were unique to pvp at least. and tbc pvp sets were recolours.
this seems reasonable.
that they look nice, really. it’s a pretty vague, useless answer, i know. legion had a lot of nice looking sets as well, as did wod. the horde leather pvp sets in bfa have been really ugly i think. haven’t used mine at all. for me i think the sets on horde are a lot uglier than alliance, but ultimately it’s all really subjective of course.
Yes, for most of the things said, but I will never agree to any highend titles/rewards in 2’s. Only thing I think 2’s could recieve is a bit more incremental achivements (2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5 etc). Gear drops in 2’s is more then fine what that stupid bracket deserves.
