I was hoping that after the successful server balancing during the Anniversary event, Blizzard would bring that wonderful feature to Pandaria too — forced server balance. But for some mysterious reason, they didn’t.
As a result, there are simply no real PvP servers in MoP. They technically exist — three of them — but each is completely dominated by a single faction.
It’s sad and disappointing. You might as well rename them from “PvP servers” to “One-Faction Only Realms” and stop disgracing the proud legacy of PvP mode.
Roll the opposite faction on the monofaction server and gank people until they transfer away to a real PvE server
- Forced action balance was introduced before Anniversary. It was an SoD feature.
- It was not as big a success as it seems to be. People naturally started to form Alliance / Horde layers, so it worked only halfway. I know because I played through the entirety of it.
- The only reason it had any success at all was the fact that transfers were disabled. If you enforce faction balance suddenly, people will just transfer out and form another one-sided realm because that’s how it always worked. In fact, the demand to open transfers out of PvP realms remained the most popular forum thread of SoD for months.
- We have only tested it on fresh realms. We have no experience of it being enforced on years-old one-faction megaservers, it could turn out to be a disaster for various reasons.
- As you have said, PvP servers are actually PvE. Most people here do not want to do WPvP. We do not want our [de-facto] PvE realm to suddenly become PvP, the devs know that and do not touch it. Might as well rename them to PvE, as you well said.
So they shouldn’t stick a PvP tag on those servers then, right?
Change them to PvE and officially declare WPvP as dead.
They could also merge all of them into one PvP server to fix this btw.
No, it’s good.
PvP and especially world PvP should be removed as a concept
But… why??? Isn’t it all about WAR between factions in World of WARcraft?
Bunch of pvers will tell you it’s world of carebearcraft.
By that logic, Elden Ring should be all about rings?
This would only “fix” something for a small minority of people who want to do WPvP. Most people want nothing to do with WPvP and it would only ruin the game
They can select PvE realm, they agreed to pvp ruleset when creating character. It’s not pvpers problem pve players can’t even read.
Are you ‘most people’ now? It’s a PvP server. If someone prefers PvE, there are literally servers for that. Complaining about PvP on a PvP server just doesn’t make sense — like, why even roll here if you hate it?
The PvP label is formality. Firemaw and Gehennas are PvE realms. If you stick a Bugatti logo on a Toyota Prius, it’s still Toyota Prius, sorry.
Why do people roll on PvP realms if they don’t want to PvP?
PvE servers are ghost towns. The issue isn’t world PvP — it’s that Blizzard split the playerbase across too many PvP realms.
One PvP megaserver with layering = problem solved.
World feels alive again, and you get PvP when you actually want it.
Also, Blizzard could just allow free transfers to PvE.
Don’t care about PvP? Go PvE.
I like PvP — but right now in MoP, there’s no real way to enjoy it. Give us the option.
There are few answers for this so pick one or all of them:
Some people picked pvp server just to join friends while not being interested in pvp.
Serious pve guilds pick pvp server for age-old reason “better players play on pvp servers”, so their recruit base is more skilled on average.
Historically, there was only pvp to pve transfer, so guild chose pvp server to have an option if needed.
I dont know where you get that info, but atm we have 2 full pve and 3 full pvp servers servers, so hardly a ghost towns.
During vanilla classic in 2019, servers were pretty balanced and all went to imbalance during classic tbc, where people just transferred and made one sided “pvp” servers.
Imo, people like pvp servers, but only with fair battles (not 10 vs 1) and occasional pvp here and there, not day and night blockade of BRD dungeons and killing FP NPCs in vanilla.
There is an option - roll minority faction on any pvp server and enjoy wpvp all the time.
To be honest… warcraft players just “p-ssied”. They are weak, scared, they think wow is singleplayer game. Most of the playerbase are retail andies. Back in the days sure u got ganked by 2-3 rogues but… your faction came to gank them too this was fun, especialy prices of materials were valuable because u had to fight for them a lot of times. What now? Look at Ghost Iron xD 1gold/each because they just hyperspawning, and you have almost no competition, no fear of open world. They should just stop selling realm transfers, force faction balance, make impossibility of layer detection and make it completly random with some accurate balance.
Players are most of the times just pet+bra hunting casuals without class knowledge and they have problem press single defensive. Most of the times I just melted ppl in wpvp, around same gear and they can’t even use trinket… and they press random abilites like a bots. Its world of WARcraft… its about WAR between these 2 factions, this is no D1sney arcade.
Yeah, probably MoP is not for me. I’m asking too much of it.
Will stick to good ol’ vanilla then.
Still, it’s so sad that there is NO PvP option on MoP. Sad and strange, honestly.
You have every option to do it. You can do BGs, arena, rated or not. These are specifically designed for PvP.
WPvP is a very niche subtype of PvP. It was only remotely popular in Vanilla, but even then it was horrible. WPvP encounters are always completely unfair and unfun instances of griefing. Usually people just gank weaker people, or low-skilled people, or people who are fighting 2 mobs, or people who do not have PvP gear on, or people who do not have the PvP spec on (which is the absolute majority). In 95% of the cases the outcome of the fight is decided before it even starts.
If you want to PvP, you can do it in special places designed for that where other people want to do the same. If you want to do WPvP, in reality you just want to beat defenseless people up
Why this pvp hating player posts so much in pvp threads? Go post on PvE stuff.
hahah this guy is still around :D. He is in every post about pvp servers. He must get ganked hard in STV
Forget MOP. I stopped after TBC when it turned into monofaction. Just come Anniversary, much wpvp
Too late for Anniversary.