Pvp vendor is cool and stuff but we actually need a m+ vendor too

Make up your mind, you aren’t making sense.

So what you’re telling me is that you’re guaranteed loot somehow in a raid because 3 people are getting loot out of 20 people per boss and 2 items per m+ ? I didnt know this was guaranteed

No, I’m saying it drops loot. In case you are unable to follow a simple conversation, you said:

and I said:

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But they’re so low that you barely see them if at all, the way you’re acting is as if loot was flowing

Ah I see someone in full pvp gear trying to pretend that pvp and pve gear acquisition right now is balanced.

Sounds on average like 1.5 loot items per raid per member. That’s higher than the other systems. :woman_shrugging:

It’s not, pvp gets fewer items per week than pve.

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Valor Points, anyone?

That’s why we have so many complaints right ? Because there’s loot

Also what other systems ? Valor points were a much better system and at least you progress towards something

If you think doing arena for an an hour or two to cap conquest is equivalent to clearing TEN RAID BOSSES you’re delusional.

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I think we have complaints because pve players like you can’t play their content for fun.

I agree valor points would be a more fair system btw. But there would be no loot under that system, you would get 0.75 items a week + vault, same as pvp. You need to be aware of that.

Yes, it is because you also need high rating to get good stuff. Which you never had in your life, so you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Gear progress is my fun, why do you decide for me what I enjoy in this game ?

This system is BS for pvers. The average pvper is in full heroic gear or better while only 2% of players have cleared heroic raid.

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I don’t decide anything, I’m a paying user with the right to have an opinion.

The average pvper is under 1400 rating and struggling against pve keyboardturners with 30 more ilvs than them at 1200, and under 200 ilvl atm. This reset will get better for the average pvper.

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Well your opinion is wrong, you’re telling me getting gear shouldnt be my way of having fun, not sure why ?

You think it’s fair that pvers have to deal with terrible RNG and get 35 anima most of the time while you reach a rank and then upgrade all your gear at once?

I’m not telling you anything about what you should enjoy, I am telling you that you’re spewing nonsense and hyperbole, and that in my opinion content should first and foremost be done for the sake of it being fun to play, not for loot. You’re free to disagree, nobody put a gun to your head. But one thing I couldn’t care less about is you telling me my opinion is wrong.

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Sure if u remove random gear drops from m+

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They should really bring back a badge vendor for PvE

The new Honor/Conquest system works wonders, they could easily translate it into Justice/Valor for M+.

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The average PvPer doesn’t have 2.1k+ rating. This is nonsense. The average PvPer is probably around 197 by now.

Irrelevant to the drop-issue.

As it turns out raiding is not actually that much fun. Now that pvp players can actually play pvp again obv they will.

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