Which are 2 separate item aquired in different moments.
When he had frostmourne he didnt have the helm.
He was alive when he killed quel dorei
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Tell me where was your favorite human kingdom when quel thalas was attacked?
Oh yes, away.
Tell to everyone which race is responsible of the blood elves eviction from the alliance.
Oh yes, your NE friends who put their “veto”
You re funny, void elf.
Facts :
-14 years in the horde : perfect match
Playable BE
-Playable VE
Where are the HE?
Oh yes for blizzard the high elf society is the blood elves
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Being “alive” isn’t what determines who you are, or what you represent.
Arthas’ soul was lost the moment he picked up Frostmourne, and it wasn’t his will to invade Quel’Thalas–it was Ner’zhul’s, or the Jailer’s if you go by modern lore–and Arthas did not go there as the Prince of Lordaeron representing Humanity. He was living dead, technically alive but a husk of himself, being used as a weapon by Death against Life, to take the Sunwell and bring back Kel’thuzad.
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Yes and you asked the forsaken for help, who were only there because Sylvanas demanded Lor’thermar danced as she sang or she removed her forces and you’d be overrun by the scourge (again),great ally right there 
In addition we didn’t get a call for help, you wanted us to sense it?
Proclaimed by the forsaken, never an official statement from the Alliance themselves. In addition to that, before you bring it up, why would night elven saboteurs brings druids along if their plan was to disrupt your people?
Didn’t address any of my points, remember Garrosh who wanted to exile you if you didn’t fall in line with his “true Horde”?
Give me more hair options and I’ll be happy, heck I’ll even give you the void ones if you get green eyes and want fel tentacles!
Queue pandaren, dracthyr. All his reasons are aestethic reasons. High Elves have way more lore than Void Elves.
The original argument for not adding them to Alliance first was:
There aren’t enough high elves left to do so, yet there were less gnomes lore wise.
Second one being: they look too much like blood elves, queue wow their first neutral race: Pandaren, followed by Dracthyr.
So no, invalid source, Blizzard is once again, being unreliable. 
Lordaeron was the head of the alliance though. And Garrithos was treated by all races as the de facto representative of Alliance which is why Dwarves even sent him their forces. Therefore his decisions were seen as coming from the alliance.
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The Alliance of Lordaeron fell during the Third War due to the Scourge and the Plague of Undeath, my point being is that the current Alliance isn’t “that” Alliance.
As there were different Hordes as well.
The blood elves are the true high elves who didn’t sell themselves out or their traditions. The high elves are nothing but human lapdogs easily proven by this topic alone. You have no dignity and honor you just do what either Turalyon or Jaina tell you to do.
Incorrect, lorewise, if you read it, the remaining high elves are a group of outcasts (cast out by Lor’themar), because they refused to suck the magic out of living beings.
and because Quel’thalas joined the Horde. Don’t be too confusing sucking Human D.
Quel’thalas isn’t what the discussion is about; I’m not worried about that. I love the High Elven architecture and landschape, but I accepted it’s a Horde zone & Silvermoon being a Horde city.
Don’t choke on that Orc D.
If you want to be childish, I’ll comply
That is the difference mate. The blood elves are very independent and never exploited by the Orcs. But high elves absoloutley live on human worship overdose and made that their whole personality.
And since end of tbc we dont have the need to absorb living beings or fel crystal
So you can easily come back
But maybe you prefer kneel before humans and serve them than being a free elf and with your kind.
[Sock] , take it and embrace your freedom
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Oh the irony! So the Blood Elves are evil for saying: comply or leave, but humans are ok for saying: leave or die xD
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We? Friend, I hate to break it to you, but you are not a Blood Elf. You’re a human playing a fictional elf in the game. You don’t speak for the fictional people of Quel’Thalas. 
The sunwell is restored since 2008, “friend”.
It is worth remembering that while Garithos has ordered the execution of the Elves, nobody stopped him. Even the leaders of what was left of Dalaran at the time didn’t utter a peep in protest as Rommath observed to Aethes in ‘In the Shadow of the Sun’. The Alliance had made their feelings very clear regarding the Blood Elves.
Garrosh was an Orc supremacist who literally kicked the rest of the Horde out of the Horde except for his own followers. If the Blood Elves didn’t measure up this ‘True Horde’ it is worth remembering that the Trolls, Tauren, Forsaken and Goblins didn’t either (he had to hire a separate cartel to arm his True Horde, the Blackfuse).
Mists of Pandaria was actually the expansion which solidified the presence of the Blood Elves within the Horde and confirmed what many who played Blood Elves had long suspected…the Horde was a better fit for the Blood (High) Elves. A looser confederation of states when compared to the over-centralising tendencies of the Alliance that allowed the Blood Elves to be themselves.
No, they don’t. As all Void Elves began as High Elves, they inherited whatever lore the High Elves had, they just acquired more as they have gone off in a different direction.
The only time Blizzard directly mentioned the population issue, which was why it has become a topic of debate, is because of the blue post from Caydiem nearly two decades ago. He SPECIFICALLY cited how the remaining High Elf population is a major factor in why they are not playable and he drew a comparison directly with the Gnomes, who had recently suffered a genocide, saying that there weren’t anywhere near as many remaining High Elves as there are Gnomes.
As for appearences, they look exactly the same.
Pandaren, Dracthyr and Earthen…and Haronir…are neutral races. A neutral race isn’t actually a part of the Horde or the Alliance. The Kingdom of Stormwind is a state that is part of the Alliance, but the Pandaren state isn’t. Instead, some individual Pandaren have joined the Alliance whilst their people remain neutral. Blood Elves are a core Horde race and the Kingdom of Quel’Thalas is a part of the Horde. They were conceived of and introduced as such.
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Pardon the late reply, was caught up with irl stuff.
Again, they were a call back to Warcraft RTS base building. You had workers gathering resources. You placed buildings.
Okay, just like how you can adjust furnishings and decorate your house. You can argue all you want about the fine specifics and differences between housing and garrisons, but at the end of the day, both concepts, at the very core, are to provide the player with their own space to return to and rest in, hence the Garrison having a hearthstone.
is that I really mean that in relation to this particular request
So asking for other features is okay, but not for high elves? How is that fair?
you’ve waited twenty years for this
Some of us have waited since Vanilla. There was a comic that mentioned this way back in 2005, I can’t seem to pull it up, but some of us have been on the bandwagon more recently.
But just because the wait’s been a long time doesn’t mean it will never happen. Silksong went several years without having a single piece of news and now it’s finally out. Metroid Prime 4 is getting a release date.
But in relation to warcraft all these examples I’ve listed were long awaited requests that finally came to fruition. Housing is techincally a 20-year-old request as I remember other MMOs had housing while WoW did not during its vanilla days. And there’s also the fact of the matter that the devs themselves have said “never say never” and “anything can happen”
the conclusion drawn is that they themselves don’t want to do it
Where’s the proof of that? And before you cite Ion’s 2018 Q&A response know that a lot of other things he said around that time contradict the direction the game is going now, like cross faction grouping.
they are mostly exiled Farstriders with a smattering of members from other classes. They are so heavily Hunter dominated that they were represented at the Hunter Class Hall.
The silver covenant have mages among their ranks, and, there’s a new item that’s been datamined for the trading post
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=251971/tome-of-cerulean-ciphers
The flavour text reads: “The High Elf Magisters of the Silver Covenant bind their tomes with an ever-changing cipher”
Anasterian sent a token force comprising those Elves who WANTED to help the Alliance to get them out of his hair and so he could argue he had fulfilled his oath
I can only recall from memory that there were at least one or two missions where the humans actively aided the elves in the defence of Quel’thalas against the Old Horde and the Amani Trolls. Warcraft Wiki also states:
" With the powers of its spellcasters returned, the Horde continued its push through Quel’Thalas. The army ravaged the countryside as it marched, burning villages to the ground and slaying every elf in its path toward the elven capital of Silvermoon City. King Anasterian Sunstrider issued orders to resist the invaders, calling on his greatest generals and warriors. There seemed to be little hope for Quel’Thalas, however, before the arrival of Turalyon and a large Alliance army."’
The argument at hand makes it look like Anasterian had no love for the human and dwarven kingdoms, and for a time it might be true, but the truth is, the Alliance of Lordaeron held their end of the bargain and came to the rescue of Quel’thalas. Judging from the intercession cinematic in Midnight, it looks like history will repeat itself.
You may counterargue that Anasterian left the Alliance after it was no longer useful for him during Warcraft 3, but so did Gilneas, and now it has returned to the fold. Just because you’ve left the alliance before doesn’t mean you can never return 
Look, I am not a fan of the Allied race system
I respect your honesty. You can hold the position that they’re not necessary, and if they weren’t introduced, I would 100% agree with you and say that playable high elves just aren’t feasible. I felt that way until BFA.
But the truth is Allied Races are really just a slightly different take on a core race. With that agreed, I can’t see how High Elves shouldn’t be playable.
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The blurring of faction lines. That already happened with Blood Elves going to the horde. (Devs have stated that blood elves were a “pretty race” for the Horde) Blood Elf Paladins and Draenei Shamans. Neutral races that have identical models and animations for both factions (but with different tabards and factions). And now, being able to do group content with people from the other faction. The line between the factions barely exist.
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“Blood Elves are High Elves”. Oh wait, the last several posts have been about this. Very well, let’s continue
He is the one who termed them ‘the high elves of Trolls’ as he observed them. That and the millenia of separation from the other Troll tribes and the development of their golden civilization in Dazar’alor means that they are meaningfully different.
But you mention that “biology” is a significant factor when it comes to different races and that political opinion doesn’t count. Yet, separation and the development of a civilisation sounds exactly like having a cultural difference that is born from a different attitude and opinion as well as separation. Maybe I haven’t read enough on Troll physiology, but other than culture, Zandalari and Darkspear are the same. Amani as well, and the latter have unique models.
The average Alliance Warlock has probably dabbled with the Fel to a greater degree than any non Warlock/Demon Hunter Blood Elf and they aren’t excluded from their respective races
Where’s the source on this?
They are not biologically distinct, all the Blood Elves did was drain mana from vermin…the High Elves drained it from relics they found.
A High Elf cannot have green eyes while a Blood Elf can. Why is that? Unless if there’s a retcon to suggest that green eyes are a thing of the past. What’s your avatar’s excuse? 
A difference in eye colour is more than just a preference or contact lenses, and sources do say that the cleansing of fel corruption isn’t instantaneous. Hell, there’s an instance where you have to deal with blood elves who still rely on fel magics.
And while Alleria was the leader, and I have to remind you she is no longer a High Elf.
She’s a High Elf and a Void Elf. the Jury is out, since she isn’t permanently altered like a playable void elf. Some argue that she’s a high elf that can harness the void, others say she’s a plain void elf.
Of course, there’s also the argument that she’s the racial leader of the void elves. But Turalyon is technically a main figure in the Lightforged Draenei faction, and while he speaks Draenei, he is still very much a human.
You are citing real world examples when that isn’t the problem
The argument presented kept saying that High Elves are “blood elves with a different opinion” and therefore should be discounted from consideration for playability. The real world examples like the US was to point out that political opinions actually do lead to whole new nation states and even civilisations. Some people argue that culture flows downstream from politics. That’s how civil wars begin, that’s how indepdence is declared, that’s how a nation gets partitioned.
Nightborne are urban, arcane loving elves in contrast to the woodland, nature orientated Night Elves
Just as how Blood Elves are urban, magic loving elves in contrast to the rugged, more naturalistic High Elves?
Void Elven culture, nascent and limited as it is, is predicated entirely on the void in contrast to the light that is now the dominat theme of the Blood Elves.
As much as I like the idea of Void Elves and would love see their lore expanded upon and for them to have the limelight (or the void equivalent thereof), this goes to show that new races that are pulled out of Blizzard’s rear are getting better treatment a race that has had history and lore going all the way back to 1995! 30 years ago!!! And void elves are Blood Elves who chose to resort to darker magics, just as how Blood Elves are High Elves who chose to resort to darker magics. (not just fel, but also corrupting the light at the time)
Also, I was counting from when the Blood Elves were told of how to drain mana and use the fel, which happened the year after Warcraft 3 and which I then counted towards the end of the TBC
I hate to nitpick but I remembered a previous post of your saying that 7 years is a long time to be “holding a vigil” so 4-6 years of relying on fel crystals and being around them should also be significant. Unless if you’re going to argue that time passes different in the Warcraft universe? (which, may be a thing?)
Furthermore, Illidan pointed out that there was no cure for the addiction, they never went cold turkey. That’s why they were draining mana from vermin.
My point wasn’t that they went cold turkey, it was that fel corruption doesn’t disppear overnight. It takes time to fade away, so to say it was only 4-6 years doesn’t really help since it doens’t take into account when all the demon cancer leaves the system.
And let’s not start inventing mysteriously missing High Elf settlements that could be uncovered, that isn’t going to happen.
But we’ve been discovering new places all the time. By the light, we’ve discovered an alternate universe for crying out loud, and brought back a classic warcraft villain for kicks and giggles (or, more accurately, a raid). Believing that there are other high elf settlements out there is within the realm of possibility when you have other discoveries that are literally out of this world.
How is that fair to Void Elf players who need to see a race they may actually prefer continually bastardised to be a vector for your fantasy simply because you don’t want to take the full fat High Elf fantasy on offer in the Horde?
It would actually help the case for High Elves to be their own race, because the non-voidy customisations, as you have pointed out, are turning them into High Elf-lite. I want the Void Elves to have their own identity and story. I want their customisation suites to have voidy stuff like more tendrils , voidy jewelry, and hairstyles that are dark and gothic.
But one major counterargument to an AR is that we already have enough elves, and the non-void customisations already allow us to play the high elf fantasy. Fine, I can work with that, but if that is the case, while the customisation suite goes some way to fulfilling the request, it doesn’t go all the way.
And once again, there is no such thing as a High Elf fantasy on the Horde. There is a Blood Elf fantasy, one that subverts the High Elf fantasy because you’re working alongside races that are traditionally opposed to high elves and resorting to methods that High Elves wouldn’t do.
Which is valid storyline, and one that I argue would be enriched with playable high elves. Lor’themar keeps wanting them to come back, but they refuse. Some Blood Elven RPers see the High Elves are traitors or people too proud for their own good, preaching morality when they were in a privileged position to do so (some argue that Vereesa didn’t have to worry about mana addiction since she lived in Dalaran with her main squeeze being a mage).
Think of the immense RP opportunities, the heightened tensions with pvp (that will inevitably happen if the marketing is to be believed), and the ability for the other thalassians to carve out their own identity when High elves happen.
And once again, it bears repeating. Blood Elves absolutely should have their own culture, identity, and customisation suites, like the Darkfallen. Hell, I would happy welcome San’layn customisations for them and them only.
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I would love for you to play Mist of Pandaria classic and experience what Garrosh did to them.
Or the High Elves, like Blood Elves are great at holding grudges, as lorewise, the remaining High Elves live in human cities. I also think the Manabomb on Theramore might have something to do with it in hindsight. But I could be wrong. In addition the Silver Convenant (WotLK) warns that the Sunreavers are doing everything they can to undermine them and sabotage them. The High Elves were never exiled under Kael’thas, it was Lor’themar and old wounds run deep (so it seems).
Garrosh wants a word with you.
These two in itself are contradictions, so if it was a human doing it, it was bad. You forget Nazgrim was also a part of that Horde, but didn’t say a thing and followed orders like a lapdog. Garithos his single redeeming quality was, is when the time called for it, he would work together wit the then banshee Sylvanas to restore the Lordaeron capital and it’s lands.
Void Elf females got a joke: First it was High, then blood and now void, get the order right. Void Elves are more a mix of Blood Elves and High Elves. Both who were intrigued by the voids possibilities.
This post has been debunked by the lore novels. That’s why it is an issue.
My argument is not for Blood Elves to join the Alliance or to make Quel’thalas an Alliance or neutral zone. In my own PERSONAL humble opinion, it would have been a better fit to add High Elves over Void Elves as playable race (I’m sure you can agree on that).
But the aren’t. Nightborne originate from the same group of Night Elves as the High/Blood Elves. All three of them are highly dependent on Arcane Magic to the point of developing an addiction to it. Of course the differences are there with nightborne split being caused by their home city vanishing in wake of sundering and them having to sustain themselves solely on the arcane power of the Nightwell for the entire time.
There is no major or even minor cultural difference between High and Blood Elves. They retained same culture, beliefs and even societal structure.
Difference in sustenance. As it stands now after mere 4 years drawing their sustenance from the fel the Blood Elves were now sustaining their magic crave off Light/Arcane Sunwell which over time returned their eyes to “original” blue with some individuals eyes’ turning gold.
No,
Elves who are actually lost in the alliance must leave their humans owners and come back in blood elves ranks
And those who decide to be and stay traitors must be excomunicado