Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 1)

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You are claiming that the Ren’dorei are not the same race as the Quel’dorei and Sin’dorei.
The whole forum is facepalming.

But by your logic:

Every elf is a troll

Night Trolls changed into the Kaldorei because of the well of eternity
Kaldorei, Quel’dorei settlers created the kingdom of Quel’thalas as Night Elves and changed over time.
High Elves remained loyal to their original tradition and honor
Blood Elves became fel addicted, were betrayed and led to ruin by Kael’thas (SL lore)
Void Elves researched and now use void magic.

See how easy it was to debunk your “logic”?

Other than your gut feeling you have nothing to support your claims.

Edit: Kaldorei Quel’dorei also became: Nightborne and Naga*

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Where ?

10char

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You only yap about Quel’dorei and not Ren’dorei coming back, your intent was clear. But I want to take your logic one step further.

You as Blood elf should beg to rejoin the Kaldorei society or be how did you put it?:

So yes, according to your desires and wishes, nothing holds you from doing what is right traitorous elf.

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Is that one of your hobby? Inventing words for someone else?

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No my hobby is pointing out the flaws in other people their irratic reasoning.

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Do you know that Silvermoon is

  1. a Horde City
  2. the city of the Blood elves

This is not the city of alliance quel dorei and ren dorei.

Those are foreigners.

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Scroll up and read my prior response, you might learn something, no point in me repeating everything 100 times if you refuse to read it.

I’ll quote myself regarldess:*

*edit: adding quote

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Wait you seriously rely solely on Wowhead? How about reading some other sources? Here’s a paragraph from WoW wiki

“High elves and blood elves are physiologically the same race, and the difference between high and blood elves is only political.[13] When Quel’Thalas left the Alliance, some high elves chose to remain with their allies over their kingdom, and to this day still support the Alliance.[10] Some high elves were exiled from Quel’Thalas after the Third War.[14] Other high elf remnants have chosen to rejoin the Alliance in recent years, arriving to a cold reception.[2] Modern high elves are a rare sight, and are commonly mistaken for blood elves.[15][16] In consequence, there are very few high elves left on Azeroth today. High elves did not gather in any significant numbers and are a very small group of individuals. Indeed, modern high elves cannot even truly be said to have a culture—only a past filled with glory and regret.[2]”

Which basically proves that what you say doesn’t hold much ground.

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No I don’t only rely on WoWHead, but the cultural devide is big enough for them to be each their own races.

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https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1237451.jpg

Ren dorei
Alliance quel dorei
Sin dorei

Are all the same race

Ren dorei are bannished because of treason
Alliance quel dorei are welcome if they decide to integrate blood elves

If not they are excomunicado

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Quoted it above but sure you’d miss it:

Aka I support you for the full 100% on that*

*edit

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To be clear

Silvermoon and Quel thalas belong to the Blood elves and the Horde.

Alliance quel dorei have zero right on this land.

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And I 100%+1% agree with you on that.

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There’s no such thing as High Elf Culture though. They didn’t depart at all from the Blood Elves in that regard other than their moral grandstanding which is ultimately moot. They ultimately did not move forward nor build anything new.

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The main cultural difference between High Elves and Blood Elves is their political allegiance and recent history, stemming from the Scourge invasion of Quel’Thalas. All Blood Elves were once High Elves, but they adopted the new name and joined the Horde after the attack, while the High Elves who remained loyal to the Alliance did not change their name or faction. This leads to different cultural philosophies: Blood Elf culture focuses on survival and vengeance, sometimes using dark magic for power, whereas High Elves are characterized by their allegiance to the Alliance and a more disciplined, albeit dwindling, society.

Blood Elf Culture (Sin’dorei)

Origin
All Blood Elves were originally High Elves who survived the Scourge’s attack on their homeland, Quel’Thalas.

Renaming
They renamed themselves Sin’dorei (“Children of the Blood”) to honor the vast majority of their people who were killed during the invasion.

Faction
They joined the Horde, forming an alliance for mutual survival.

Philosophy
Blood Elf culture is shaped by vengeance and a desperate need to sustain themselves after the loss of the Sunwell, leading them to drain magic from other sources and embrace fel energy for a time.

High Elf Culture (Quel’dorei)

Allegiance
High Elves chose to remain loyal to the Alliance, rather than the Blood Elves who formed the Horde.

Philosophy
They are often characterized by the values of their ancient past, like honor, discipline, and a respect for order, but this is a diminishing culture.

Prominent Groups
The Silver Covenant, a militant high elf faction, is a well-known example of High Elves fighting for the Alliance.

Are you sure about that?

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High elves were not in the alliance in warcraft 3

High elves were in the alliance during only 3 years with the dark portal event

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They weren’t, but were still interacting with humans, there were High Elves that stayed behind in the human kingdom after the second war.

So to claim they weren’t at all present is not entirely correct.

Think Alleria Windrunner and her consorts.

I believe there is a lodge in Loch Modan with High Elves and one in the Hinterlands, I don’t count the one in the plague lands as since the Cata update only 3 high elves remain from the original ones Lor’themar exiled there.

Speculation says that the lodges in the Hinterlands and Loch Modan were founded as outposts after the second war for the High Elves (I have no source to support this).

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Don’t know where did You get that, but Silver Coventant readily and without question killing innocent people on the streets of Dalaran sure doesn’t sound honorable. And neither does Vereesa poisoning Garroshe’s food when she realised he won’t get the punishment she wished for him in just trial.

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I thought I had that covered with this :grimacing:

“diminishing”

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I demand sources