Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 1)

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You are an ancient civilization, renowned for your knowledge of arcane magic, lush woodlands, beautiful architecture, and love for the finer things in life. Wine, good food, extravagant clothing, and expensive jewellery. Truly the peak of civilization on Azeroth. Scholars and magisters.

For thousands of years, you share the continent with humans and dwarves the south, and trolls in the east.

Your entire existence is shaped by this. The trolls are your bitter enemies, while the humans amd dwarves fight alongside you.

You trade with them. You teach them magic. You defeat the trolls together.

Many among you even settle among the humans and dwarves. Befriend them. Learn about the Light. Build families together.

A number of your kinsmen even leave the Eastern Kingdoms with these humans, seeking new lands far away.

Then, disaster strikes. Monsters from another world attack your home, burn your neighbouring kingdoms to the ground. Pillage and slaughter anyone in their way.

They enslave noble dragons, raise the dead, and summon vile demons onto the battlefield.

Eventually, one human is able to rally all the kingdoms under one banner. The priest, Turalyon, takes up arms as one of the first noble Paladins.

The Alliance is formed. Men, elves, dwarves, and gnomes against orcs, trolls, ogres, and goblins.

Good vs. evil. The Light against darkness.

You triumph, and while some of your heroic defenders, like Alleria Windrunner, follow the orcs beyond the dark portal to ensure victory at last, your kingdom withdraws to finally live in peace and prosperity.

Skip ahead a few years. A young human prince has become corrupted by death. He burns his own kingdom while a horrifying plague ravages the countryside to your south.

One fateful day, he leads his army of the dead right through your realm, murdering most of your kinsmen and defiling your sacred Sunwell.

Your proud nation lies in ruin.

So what do you do?

Do you send envoys to your friends in the south, begging for aid?

Of course not! You join the brutes who burned your world to the ground a decade ago–the ones summoning demons everywhere, enslaving dragons, sending your ancient enemy–the trolls–to butcher you.

Makes complete sense. :wink:

To put it another way: Quel’Thalas joining the Horde makes about as much sense as if they had joined the Scourge.

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Haem only during 3 years… LOL

during thousands of years High elves have been in the alliance during only 3 years.

Calm down, human. This is not Lord of the ring but WoW.
we are in the horde for 14 years. (Lore) and we are in the good place.

Who betray the other one ???

  • Isnt humans ? With your human prince flesh and bone who slaughtered us ?
  • Ask Garithos about who betray elves
  • Ask Jaina about who genocide elves
  • Where was de Kirin tor when Silvermoon was attacked?
  • Where was Kingdom of stormwind?

a good human is a dead one, warm served with carrots and honey to our zandalari & darkspear FRIENDS

Taz’dingo

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Oh we are going with that lie are we? No one asked. When the forums were riddled with requests for the model to be given with to the Alliance, exactly the way velfs were given. How nice of you to lie to my face.

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  • The “Human Prince” was Undead. And was actually leading Lordaeron (who are the Forsaken).

  • Garithos has barely been ever mentioned in WoW. If people in-universe don’t care that much about him, BElves included, why reference him 24/7.

  • Maybe the Sunreavers shouldn’t act as instruments to mass murder for Garrosh? They were the ones to breach the trust. Especially when they’re assisting the same guy that killed the preceding ruler of Dalaran. And before you mention anything to the contrary, the fact that Aethas recognizes his guilt and is making amends with Jaina in hopes of forgiveness, proves that she was in the right.

  • Dalaran was already falling by the time Arthas was laying siege to Quel’thalas.

  • Stormwind was a bankrupt Kingdom. Idk what you want them to do when they’re on the other side of the world.

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Wrong, Arthas died on the Frozen throne, not before.

  • Garithos has barely been ever mentioned in WoW. If people in-universe don’t care that much about him, BElves included, why reference him 24/7.

Lol every blood elves who know his lore know about garithos.

Dalaran was already falling by the time Arthas was laying siege to Quel’thalas.

wrong, Silvermoon was attacked before Dalaran

Maybe the Sunreavers shouldn’t act as instruments to mass murder for Garrosh? They were the ones to breach the trust. Especially when they’re assisting the same guy that killed the preceding ruler of Dalaran. And before you mention anything to the contrary, the fact that Aethas recognizes his guilt and is making amends with Jaina in hopes of forgiveness, proves that she was in the right.

the bomb wasnt droped to kill specificly elves, Jaina genocided elves on purpose including civilians

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Arthas turns Undead in the 3 days after he picked up the sword and lost his soul. Both Warcraft 3 and the novelization emphasize that.

OK, I wasn’t talking about players. Read my post again.

Do Blood Elves in-universe ever talk about Garithos? Infact, does anybody in-universe reference him? Even looking at the Warcraft wiki, it’s a single mention from Mathias Shaw in 2023, lol.

Once again, your reading comprehension is poor. Did I say Dalaran was attacked before Quel’thalas? No. Just that it was falling (i.e. all of Lordaeron fell, along with portions of Hillsbrad.)

Jaina’s only demand was that the Sunreavers leave after they are found guilty of violating Dalaran’s neutrality. Aethas tells her no. He finds out.

Also the bomb was dropped specifically to kill civilians, just a few posts above you were talking about how Theramore was somehow a Quel’dorei hub. Nevermind that they then procceded to be accessories to getting Garrosh a second weapon of mass destruction in Pandaria.

You might have some issues with reading, sorry.

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And afterwards you limit your contacts with them the Elves Taught 100 humans. That’s all. After the war they limited the interaction and weren’t keen to get dragged into another conflict hundreds of years later. Yes some outliers integrated more closely but in general Elves kept to themselves.

And During that Anasterian Sunstrider refused to lend any aid until Humans reminded him of an oath the previous king of Silvermoon swore to King of First Humans. Even then he only sent nominal troops until Zul’jin Joined with Orcs and threatened their Lands. And in the end Anasterian withdrew from Alliance after the threat was gone. Yes this act may have lead one Lord Garrithos to develop his Racist tendencies. The elves that Helped Lorderon during the Scourge and left with Jaina? They were there as volunteers against their king’s orders. You really need to dial down your fanfiction.

Except they did. Kael’thas Sunstrider son of the slain King after Gathering the elves scattered outside Quel’Thalas and meeting with survivors took Roughly 15% of them that according to some sources amounted to thousands of Elves and Joined the efforts to drive the Scourge Back and reclaim Lorderon. His superior and the highest ranking representative of Alliance? Lord Garrithos. The same bigot that due to his distaste for Elves sent them on a suicide Mission after depriving them from ANY reinforcements and who tried to have them executed after they were forced to accept the aid of Nagas. Oh and if I recall correctly Matthias does specifically say that Alliance Leaving Garrithos in charge may have been the biggest mistake they ever made.

Afterwards the Night Elves joined the Reformed Alliance and decided it would be prudent to warn their new friends about High Elves Role in the War of the Ancient and Shattering of the World.

And let’s not forget there was no attempt of help coming from Alliance. Instead we had Darnassian Spies hiding in the shadow and the only “Diplomat” feeding them intel on a recent accident with one of Arcane Sanctums. Meanwhile the freaking Undead lead by the High Elves Venerated Hero actually went and offered their help in reclaiming the Ghostlands and taking Vengeance on the Scourge and the Elvenkind’s biggest traitor. Of freaking course they joined the side that didn’t treat them with mistrust for the most part.

After Jaina Leverages Her role as a Leader of Dalaran to Aid the Alliance in Securing the Divine Bell. That’s already stretching the Neutrality.

And even if Jaina only wanted to Imprison the Sunreavers the Silver Covenant instead went the “Kill anyone who even slightly resist and make sure none escapes” which Jaina Failed to contain nor did she ever acknowledge.

As for the Bomb it was deployed to kill Alliance Leaders who gathered to protect Theramore during the Staged Siege. The civilians weren’t main target although they were certainly seen as an acceptable casualties. For the record None of Horde Leaders including Lor’themar approved of that Method and it was why (alongside Garrosh’s increasingly worse treatment of the Horde’s Races) he started negotiations with Varian.

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From our High elf friends from US.

Something from Ramavatarama.

https://x.com/RamavataramaArt/status/1973953522199863718

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2TkMLeXgAAK4-v.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2TkJkpWcAAv_8t.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2TkHnAWQAALC9H.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2TkFKqXAAMKorV.jpg

I hope there be Silver covenant versions of these 4 armors.

https://x.com/TheRedShirtGuy/status/1973839615057670219

https://x.com/TheRedShirtGuy/status/1973827235460358599

These two Blood elves must have gotten lost?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2a11_-W8AAK456?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Saw on the Datamined icons on MMO-champion there is a new bow in Midnight at the begining that says Wild elves? Hmm do they mean the Night elves but the bow don’t look Night elf on the icon or is it Haranir? Does that mean the Haranir are More elves than trolls. I seen on some of the customizations for Haranir, the Haranir can look more elf except the ears if one wants to. Or do they mean the Highvale elves or are we going to encounter a new elf race in Midnight at the patch “Uniting the scattered elven tribes”?

https://x.com/TheRedShirtGuy/status/1975578055642128857

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Imagine if that mean vereesa making peace with blood elves and join the sin dorei society.

HE fan club is gonna melt to the ground

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Thank you for the breathe of fresh air with this post. I do love the blue armour colour and will be farming it away in midnight. You know, one needs to look good.

Given we get a portal, does that mean every mage, regardless of faction will get a teleport to Silvermoon or will they devide it by Silverglade Refuge being the entry point for Alliance via portals?

Feel free to dump more information if you have any!

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Or it could be they reunify and High Elves will stay, but tolerate blood elves and live amongst each other again. But the faction, still refusing to align themselves with Horde. Imagine that from there they will become an allied race for Alliance.

-The BE fan club is going to melt to the ground.-

In the end, it’s speculation and pouring gasoline on the fire by making inflamatory statements, just had to return it. Nothing personal :heart:

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“wild elf” is most likely a placeholder for the haranir

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The Bombing of Theramore is widely considered a war crime and some argue it could constitute ethnic cleansing or even genocide within the context of World of Warcraft lore, as it was a deliberate attack that targeted a civilian population with a devastating mana bomb, killing thousands and wiping out the city itself.

I have an issue with this, because Garrosh played his card in this way that he could hit as many Alliance members in one swoop. Even the Naaru A’dal sent forces to help out.
The Kirin’Tor helped because they felt inaction was supporting the Horde.

The other Horde races, including the Blood Elves, as you stated made the U-turn once Garrosh his cultivation of his “True Horde” started to target them. Which in turn, prior to that, means they were more than ok with the warcrimes commited.

You confirm it yourself:

In addition to that, where does it state that the other leaders condemned the attack on Theramore, as of current I have not been able to find a source that confirms it, quite the opposite.
So if you can provide me proof of that claim, please redirect me to it. I genuinely like to be correct when it comes to lore (not provide misinformation) and will adjust my view with new information provided. :blush:

*I kind of hope, with the release of Midnight we will get a new novel that will sement the current state of High Elves, Blood Elves, Void Elves and any other we may encounter.

I can’t wait to see what they will do!

*Edit: adding information.

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Oh not the attack itself although it wasn’t mattering as much for Blood Elves who didn’t even properly participate with their forces being located in Eastern Kingdoms and not Kalimdor.

In the End Theramore for all Jaina’s preaching of peace was used by alliance as a gateway to Kalimdor making it a highly critical target if the Horde wanted to take over Kalimdor. Well Baine did warn Jaina about the attack (although that was something anticipated and planned around by Garrosh as his goal were the Alliance Commanders in addition to the city). As for Vol’jin he confronted Garrosh afterwards. Because unsurprisingly Horde Warriors participating in the attack were not aware of the true plan and many lost their lives on an attack that was from the onset doomed to fail. I’d imagine Lor’themar and even Sylvanas would have objections on that basis considering Garrosh also planned it so his loyal men didn’t suffer nearly as much loses.

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New haircut for Alfie

You ll be surprised I m not against playable HE

I prefer we ll be all reunited but if not its ok ; it doesnt change anything to my project (from HE-ve to just “HE”)

With a new City out of quel thalas maybe crystal song.

Shared access for HE/BE - Only - To both cities with a portal

But If I stay on facts… to be honest I think we ll never see playable HE now… t

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Some Senior Quest Designer asked what racial mount a High Elf Allied Race would have. Probably just having fun with the community but it’s a little interesting.

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Probably a Horse. I was considering a Hawkstrider but current High Elves probably don’t have access to them anymore just like they don’t have access to Dragonhawks.

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I think they should go all-in with the unicorn theme if they add High Elves, to be honest. Silver, blue, and green colour themes.

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Sorry but I don’t think Any Race of Azeroth, especially any of the Elves is pure enough to match the theme. Though I admit it’s the part of me that feels that it would just fuel the HE sense of moral Superiority they don’t actually deserve.

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No horses

High elves mounts are unicorns.

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