Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 1)

No, I believe it makes no sense now adding the remaining High Elves who went with the Alliance and did not adopt the Blood Elven name as a playable race, especially when we have already got Blood Elves on Horde and Void Elves on Alliance.

The core group of all the High Elves are the Blood Elves after all, and they are on Horde, and another group of High Elves now known as Void Elves is over on Alliance. And we do know that there is some of those High Elves that are also joining the Void Elves as well.

Solution: You want to play a High Elf on Alliance, just roll a Void Elf, and customize it with High Elven customizations.

This is a european problem regardless. In the American forums they accepted the compromise.

I can agree with void elf purists who don’t want their race to be muddied with what is genuine core race themes, as void elves are essentially an add-on to Blood Elves (lore-wise) and then when High Elf customizations were added it further pushed that notion.
(Since High Elves are technically the core race to Blood Elves, as in High Elf>Blood Elf>Void Elf, etc).

Whereas Man’ari and Darkfallen customization is an add-on to an already core race. (Draenei and Blood Elf).

Which is why I can call that argument valid, but not valid enough to not implement them at all. There should be a compromise to some degree. How? Well, that is the question.

Does that clarify it for you?

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I would say the majority of the High Elf group, whether from EU or NA, have accepted and moved on. Just some from both regions that remains that doesn’t want to accept.

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Void Elves are Blood Elves. Umbric was a Blood Elf Magister.

To state otherwise is ignorance or just trolling.

The fact that HE threads keep appearing and people keep engaging disproves your theory.

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I am continually mystified by this line of thinking. You got those customisations in 2020. Really weird you expect something because Amani customisations are coming to Darkspear when you got them years ago. Darkspear Trolls are still Darkspear Trolls even WITH Amani customisations, and still use Troll racials.

Why do you expect more when more is always gutting what a Void Elf is, or pretending you aren’t what you signed up to be. The path to getting HE is playing a Blood Elf for the authentic experience of playing a Void Elf as a mutant variant.

A standalone Alliance High Elf race isn’t happening. We know this now, and if it isn’t happening in Midnight, it ain’t happening. And I really very much doubt they are going to bastardise Void Elves for your benefit. The very least you can do for the race you choose to be is accept you are the race you choose to be.

It’s the same 4 people keeping the topic alive. 6 topics at this point which surley counts as spam.

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That’s why they may finally allow an option to hide/change it appearance. We will have to wait and see. Of course this is speculation but the video gave the feeling of being noticed by Blizzard.

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Again, that video is of a Void Elf.

Not all were. We do know that the Void Elves does have others joining their ranks, despite not actively recruiting, but are open to others joining them, and Alleria was a High Elf before she became a Void Elf.

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I feel like this cannot be stressed enough:

High Elven and Human history and culture are deeply interwoven. Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes, and Elves. They’ve co-existed for such a long time, they are dependant on each other, living in symbiosis more or less.

One kingdom can’t hope to produce all the goods they require to maintain their way of life. From food to clothing, metals, stonework, and a hundred other things.

They enjoy largely the same things, like music, art, theatre. Their values are similar, and they look rather alike in many ways.

One of Quel’Thalas’ most famous and influential families is pro-Alliance, the Windrunners, the eldest among them being married to a Human Paladin.

They fought together in the Troll Wars and the Second War. They’ve adventured together into the lands of the Eastern Kingdoms, founding lodges, and fighting off trolls and ogres.

They taught each other magic, and how to wield the Light. Worshiping the same Holy energy through ritual and doctrine for aeons.

They’ve married into each others’ families, to the point where an untold number of High Elves sailed across the sea with the Arathi to form a new empire.

Yet some players feel it makes more sense for these High Elves to join a horde of alien invaders, bringing with them demons from the Twisting Nether, raising the dead into service, enslaving dragons, and burning the Eastern Kingdoms to ashes in a frenzy.

It’s pretty much as if Klingons invaded Earth, burning France to the ground, and spreading their fel and necrotic magic everywhere. One of their chieftains is even installed as a lord of death on the North Pole.

Then a few years later, the Prince of Denmark got corrupted by the fel and undead energies brought by these invading aliens to Earth, and so he first destroys his own kingdom of Denmark from within, before invading the Netherlands with his army of the dead, burning it to the ground.

Then the Klingons who started all of this decide to settle down on Earth, and some of their children calm down a bit, no longer intent on conquering the entire planet, just surviving.

A while later, a racist comes to power in the remnants of Denmark. As the survivors of the Netherlands seek help in re-building their fallen kingdom, he treats them horribly, caring only for the wellbeing of his own citizens.

Meanwhile, however, other human nations stand strong. France has been re-built and is stronger than ever. Some dutchmen even live there.

Now, does it make the most sense for the desperate survivors of the Netherlands to seek out the Klingons and form a pact with them, forever becoming enemies of all the other human nations on Earth, cut off from trade of goods they desperately need… or does it make the most sense for these Dutch survivors to seek out France, Belgium, Norway, Sweden, etc., and enter a new Alliance with them?

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Exactly. If your backstory is you were a Silver Covenant member who became void curious, Void Elves accommodate that. The roleplaying aspect is thus settled.

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In-game right now all High Elf wayfarers have been removed from Telogrus rift. You as of now will only find Silvermoon scholars back. Most having green or golden eyes. Not sure if that’s mean for the implication that it are only blood elves that joined them or not. But that’s the current observation in-game.

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The fact that on the leaked questionaore for classic they mentioned High Elves specifically shows that they know the demand exists. The popularity of a pservers with High Elves shows that demand exists. To state otherwise is just being in denial.

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Exactly. In addition the addition of void elves also caused a dip in blood elven players on Horde side. So truthfully there is demand for it.

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No it isn’t. Quel’thalas was isolationist most of their history. The one time they needed human help was 3000 years ago in an alliance of covenience and even in the second war Anasterian noped out of the team the moment the Orcs were gone. You know nothing of the actual lore.

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This is headcanon. This is actual headcanon. You have taken events from the story and twisted them into something they aren’t. Quel’thalas was an isolationist state that operated in occasional alliances of convenience with Humans and had to be dragged into the Alliance for the second war. A blood oath was involved to get them to participate in the second war, they sent a token force. Only when Quel’thalas was directly threatened did they fully join as the last member, they were also the first to leave the Alliance.

This idea that High Elves and Humans were supremely close, that isn’t what happened. You prove with this post that you want to impose what you THINK happened on what actually happened.

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Since Dragonflight it seems. Maybe they are all extinct ahahahahh

For some people. They are not exticnt as you see High Elf magi on the War Within expansion.

As it ever been done? How easy or hard is it make that happen?

I did mention yesterday that we could start as a High Elf wayfarer and then choose to go through with the void transformation or not.

In my mind this would fit the High Elf RP that is not connected to any particular organization thus would not have any mount or armor set. Just a Wanderer.

Well, he isn’t wrong there to some extent, but that is only with one family, the Windrunners. But they do not represent an entire group. It is like with Valeera Sanguinar, she does not support being on either faction, but she does not represent an entire group.

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They managed to change it with the Man’ari Eredar skin, so it shouldn’t be too hard to implement it. Be it via barber/random npc in Telogrus Rift.

I’d vouch if you go fair and pale skinned it changes to an arcane hue, void skin to void proc automatically. But allow an npc to swap between them later on. Matter of streamlining it a bit.

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