Glad to see the jester is here aswell.
Cmon entertain us. Say more silly things.
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Precisely this. This was all decided ages ago when Chris Metzen returned and the Worldsoul Saga was conceived.
And what have we seen?
Another allied race is being introduced instead with the Haranir.
We have a developer whose comments strongly suggest Alliance High Elves aren’t coming.
We have no sign of a Horde equivalent of some sort which would be required, with the Amani not being at the level the Haranir and the Earthen and the Dracthyr are and even IF the Amani could still be made playable, there is no evidence they would be exclusively Horde rather than another neutral grouping.
And of course, if not now then when? We are literally in Quel’thalas in a big thalassian elf expansion. Ion revealed that new races have to make narrative sense. Does it make narrative sense to come back from Northrend and go and get Alliance High Elves? Or from the Arathi Empire?
Which leaves the second path, bastardizing Void Elves in the name of ‘customisation’. This option is possible whereas a stand alone allied race is essentially ruled out at this point, but is highly improbable because it means ruining the internal lore of Void Elves so others can play pretend. For those who seek to play pretend at any cost, they frame this as ‘customisation’ and ‘choice’ as if these are cost free rewards, never accepting that ripping at the shared fabric of the fantasy hurts everyone else, void elf fans who like Void Elves most of all.
No, an Alliance High Elf stand alone race is off the table, and customization options that bastardise Void Elves are incredibly unlikely. I think Blizzard puts them into Classic+ next year as an option for people and that will be a bigger selling point then because they won’t be in retail. And as retail is the real story, I don’t think I will care what happens in an alternate timeline.
You won’t play classic+? Already a selling point. Lmao
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This is the kind of wit and intelligence that has made your cause so successful over the years.
I mean, I get what you’re saying but also: Haranir were meant to be playable in TWW, they changed the timeline along the way.
Perhaps we’ll get some customization (for all elves) as a general feature, or maybe from doing some scenario down the road, like we did with Darkfallen in Shadowlands.
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Yes, if only that hadn’t been explained half a dozen times to you already it would be a good example.
So tell me, is it the lack of capital letters that is making it difficult for you to remember WHY the Haranir timeline was changed? Would that help? Would that be able to drive home that they aren’t a precedent or a source of anything other than false hope?
I mean I could give it a try to see if you stop forgetting, Dory-like, why Haranir were delayed. Though perhaps lower case first one last time will help.
‘Haranir were delayed from TWW because Chris Metzen returned whilst that expansion was in development and changed a one expansion story into a three expansion saga, which meant he moved the Haranir and the Rootlands into the next expansion where they would make more sense and so allow us to go to K’aresh at the end of TWW. Since Midnight was developed AFTER that choice was made, a similar delay affecting any other race is essentially impossible’.
Does that help or does it need caps so you don’t forget and stop citing it as a ridiculous precedent when it is nothing of the sort?
Why are you always so insanely hostile? Take a breath.
It’s not a ridiculous precedent when the same reason can be applied for the apparent lack of said features, especially regarding something as controversial as this. We don’t fully know how the story is going to progress, and I highly doubt Vereesa is going awol after her strong presence in the introduction. There might be a scenario down the road, in the same spirit.
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Easy. The point of debate is to inform. Even counter-points have to be countered in turn.
Instead, you simply repeat the same discredited points, accuse others of having THEIR points discredited when all you have is your opinion, and then have the nerve to portray yourself as some kind of victim.
The Haranir example is a case in point. We KNOW why they were delayed. But you have the brass neck to completely pervert what happened to suggest what you want maybe coming after all. That’s incredibly dishonest.
You can debate without hysterically writing a condescending wall of “gotcha”.
The reason for their delay does not contradict anything I said.
Saying that everything is absolutely set in stone makes no sense when there have been several occasions showing the opposite.
it still happened. And because that happened I’m sure that’s not the only thing they’ve pushed forward. We’ll see.
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The decision to move the haranir was because the war within got converted into a trilogy and this happened early in development before the expansion got announced.
Midnight is a thalassian elf expansion which we’ve been told will “reunify the scattered elven tribes”. I cant see why they would move the high elves from this to a different expansion. It doesn’t make sense to me.
I cant say what will or won’t happen in midnight, but I feel pretty confident that this will be the expansion that ends the debate one way or another.
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As usual, you are incorrect. There was an interview from last year that laid it clearly in that Season of Discovery is indeed canonical, along with all of the additions and rewrites. Now, as usual, you will argue that Season of Discovery will bear no connection to a potential Classic+, even if it’s in the name (i.e. discovering what works for a Classic+ experience). 
In that meeting we mutually agreed not to treat Season of Discovery as any sort of alternate history for World of Warcraft. The term that Chris used to describe our narrative approach to Season of Discovery is “found photographs”
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Continuing the discussion from Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 1):
Sorry you are only with silly responces to everything what questioning your fans made up high elf story about example dalaran elfs. What clearly are think as void elfs what they added for alliance playable later
I didn’t say otherwise.
I said Like the Darkfallen in Shadowlands, ie, the same expansion, but a later patch as a consequence of a longer butterfly effect.
But instead it gets taken out of context.
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Ah fair enough.
I was also referring to the expansion in its entirety so .1 and .2
Personally, although its worse case scenario for me as a void elf fan, I think that what will happen is that the silver covenant will join the rendorei, void elves will be able to change their racial to a non void one, and then unlock a title called “high elf” or something.
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Thank you for that! It adds to the continuity, and it’s a good resource for people who are curious about High Elves
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I think that most people here would be happy for a merging of the two races into one? And you yourself - as I’ve mentioned - seem happy to use “Quel’dorei” customizations for your own Void Elf.
I’m certainly not cozy (or happy) if they were to add another Elven Allied Race purely because of the racial bloat WoW is experiencing. But I’d also enjoy a greater range of customizations becoming available to us for VElves.
And as seen in TWW, the Silver Covenant makes use of Void Elven hair, while Void Elves make use of traditionally High Elven skin tones and hair colours. You can mix and match, and be all the better for it.
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I wasn’t aware of this! That’s pretty cool.
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Which I have done and which unfortunately has had zero effect given you ended up restating something that has already been explained as a precedent.
Yes, it contradicts eveything you said because you are trying to make it into some kind of precedent when the reason for it is known, the first time Blizzard ever decided to do a trilogy of expansions and they had to change the expansion already being made to accmmodate that.
Your arguments at the end of the day boil to a dismissal of logic, facts and common sense to an infantile notion of ‘because I want it, if I scream loudly enough, I will get’.
They won’t. The entire example is copium in its rawest form.
They’ll datamine a Silver Covenant elf at the old tournament grounds and we will have posts saying ‘they’ve not been forgotten!’, and ‘just who is Hiren Loresong’ and ‘tournament grounds starting point for High Elf allied race?’.
Of course I am going to argue that because that is the truth. How can a Classic+ that takes the game in a different direction be set in the same timeline? Season of Discovery was entirely its own thing compared to what classic+ will be.
Why would the blood elves even want to be united with other sub races if we amount that Umbric and Vereesa did their very best to harm them?