Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024

While I agree here there are a few misconceptons.

There was never any blood tainting for horde blood elves, the only ones that went to gorge on fel were the ones that followed either Illidan or Kael’thas and turned into those demon elf hybrids, felblood elves I think the term was?

The green eyecolour was due to proximity of the fel crystals that were sent to Silvermoon City to fuel the magical functions of the city, most Blood Elves on Azeroth continued to feed on their surrounding (see cinematic belf girl feeding on manawyrm, there is no green, manatap also had a manablue colouration and arcane torrent even gave elves a way to disperse excessive mana consumption probably as a way to ward off becoming wretched due to overfeeding)

I do think however that making them go their own way would be better then having them ‘reunite’ with their past.

High elves join the blood elves again! and with that cease to exist as a seperate interesting entity.
I don’t even understand why people would want it.

Edit: looks like it was an older post I replied too
oh well

Litteraly stop feed the troll

Yeah!
Feed the Vulpera!
Find one give them treats and /pet and your luck is guaranteed

Do not eat Shakim, its a troll bot. You ll harm your teeth

Fel taints on your robes, Priestess…I expected better.

We are the victims here, just sayin’

You re … already… dead. How can you expect something?

Tbh I m gonna start an only BE fanatic and extemist guild And I m actually trying different rp tmogs

Being undead means you don’t give a rats behind what people think of you.

So you can be as vile and rude as you want and get no real consequences, barring some hurt feelings :wink:

holy fire

Your sense of humor is gone with your life, sister in ears.

The Sylvanas book makes it fairly clear that the Light isn’t a common thing for them at least up until the 2nd War. We know they did have some because of Liadrin and the WC3 units but its not a big thing for them overall. Paladins much less so as we know that they didn’t have any before the 2nd War (Pallies didn’t exist on Azeroth until then) and we know that after the 2nd War only a few joined up with the order. Like I said though we know that more and more since the fall of Arthas have gravitated to the class.

While I don’t discount the older lore from WC3 and Early WoW the most recent depiction of their culture was in the Sylvanas book and there the Light connection for the High Elf nation was toned down a bit.

I have to say the way blizzard handles the lore is not to my liking. I am a gamer and I play a game and they should put everything important for the lore into the game.

Sure let them write nice books but only if all that is in the books get put in the game. Ofcourse in a smaller version no one has time for walls of text but if the books portrait the connection to the light this way then they should make sure you get the same idea by only playing the game

Fair.

I’d love if they put at least cliff notes for the books and things someplace in the game… cause like… Big things happen in books that no one ends up with context for in the wider community and then you get weird tidbits where everyone just assumes things about everything.

Though the reading comprehension to devs writing styles in some cases even in game can sometimes cause similar effects. Like people getting the idea that Blood Elves are fel unfused just because some of their number consumed the fel even though its no player character (canonically anyways) and not the majority of Blood Elves on the Horde’s side. Most of the fel feeding was done by Kael’thas’ group in Outland and they turn traitor pretty darned early in that story.

I digress. I wish Blizzard was a whole lot more clear and didn’t include such important plot points in their books.

Well that’s sort of what I was eluding to. It’s there, but I think Silvermoon’s Priesthood has always been more associated and more in-line with the Magisters of Silvermoon.

I mean, even in Blood Elf society, we see Silvermoon Magisters summoning in a Sin’dorei Priest to quell any unrest and blasphemy regarding the Regent Lord’s decisions and any views regarding Sylvanas.
The two seem to work, hand-in-hand, which is good because it shows a difference between Quel’dorei society and Kaldorei society.

Kaldorei - the Priesthood and Highborne were two quite seperate areas, only inter-mingling on one occasion (by my knowledge) and that was when Azshara elected High Priestess Siralen, to serve as her (Azshara’s) own personal Highborne, High Priestess.

You’re not wrong by citing technical official lore, but upon critical examination you can see that this is retcon BS, prolly introduced by Danuser & Co, and it contradicts both Warcraft 3 story and early WoW lore. Not all blood elves even live in Silvermoon.

Blood Elves became fel magic users ever since Kael’thas pledged allegiance to Illidan and until Kael’thas stroke a bargain with Kil’Jaden blood elves of Quel’thalas were in very close contact with their outland brethren.

The fel magic use also explains why Blood Elves managed to drive off the scourge, as this new found power invigorated them.

To be sure blood elves dipped into fel power much less than orcs had done in their time, probably being mindful of how potentially dangerous, not to mention that exporting fel magic sources to Quel’thalas was probably daunting from logistical point of view. Also unlike orcs we tapped into fel power out of dire necessity rather than lust for power like orcs had done.

Illidan tought Blood Elves to receive magic from several sources (Fel just being the most potent and obvious), hence you see that girl draining mana wyrm and also Mana Forges draning the nether magic.

Neither do I, this all too generic approach in recent expansions makes me increasingly disinterested in a new lore. You may think that as a Void Elf I should be happy to see Alleria as main character in recent plot, but I am not happy, I do not like Alleria. Throughout all TWW current lore she doesn’t show a slightest concern for the people she is supposed to lead (Void Elves). That’s why I liked Kael’thas infinitely more, despite his short comings you could clearly see that he loved and cared for his people.

If someone want to play high elf, you simply need to play blood elves.

blood elves = 90% of high elves survivor after arthas slaughter.

we are not talking about 51% blood elves 40% “high elves” in alliance and 9% void elves.

no no

Blood elves = 90%
alliance traitors = 9%
void elves = 1%

refuse to play blood elves for be a high elves is a paradox

If you want to play on the Alliance side and member of the Alliance or at least friendly then you will have difficulities…
Also many if not all High Elven fans like their character not necesarily agree with the renaming of the species
Yes, they renamed themselves in honor of their fallen people
But to many if not all High Elven player and PC/NPC the best way to honor the fallen is to keep their ancestral name and customs aka remain Quel’dorei, “High Elves”
And that is hard when from your sheet it glares at you “Blood Elf” (similar with the Void Elf)
The best would be to rename every of their variant to Thalassian Elves and during selection or even later you could set what kind of Thalassian Elf is your character:
High Elf - Quel’dorei
Highvale Elf - Quel’Danil Elves (but I don’t think they are ever officially renamed themselves. I could be wrong)
Blood Elf - Sin’dorei
Void Elf - Ren’dorei
Undead Elf - Darkfallen
Vampire Elf - San’layn
Redeemed Kael’thas loyalist - Felblood Elf (if we aever get a red skin for them)

Regardless of faction
Everyone would be happy

Sin dorei is just a political and memory name

Racialy, blood elves are quel dorei
And we are 90% of the race

Others are just separatist and outcasts.

San layn are scourge elves, they are all dead. We killed them all in icecrown citadel same for darkfallen

Few darkfallen were sylvanas guards

A player who choose blood elves is not one of them, you start level 1 and you re a living blood elf or an undead death knight.

There is no other kind of elves

Void elves are blood elves traitors

Alliance elves are no longer quel dorei
They dont act like high elves before the slaugther

They make babies with their human master

If you are going to larp as Elisande at least don’t conveniently ignore her opinion on the choices the sin’dorei have been making - she spells it out on the cutscene you posted even. You might want to give it another watch. :laughing:

Regardless, I think Elisande’s words effectively explain the sentiment most people who want to play as alliance quel’dorei share - the sin’dorei have been making some really questionable alliances, letting their monstrous past enemies walk the golden streets of Silvermoon.

I personally want a thalassian faction, but that might be a bit far fetched. As for alliance quel’dorei, I don’t know how that could even be feasible without making the void elves a “choice” race, like the pandaren and dracthyr.

I think Midnight has a lot of surprises in store for us.

What monstrous past enemies are you talking about?
I hope you don’t mean the forsaken. I’m pretty sure they did not choose to be undead nor did they choose to attack silvermoon.
They stood again the scourge the very first second they where not under some crazy mind control that came from as we now know some primordial death god

They may not be equivalent to the scourge, but their methods have been monstrous. Biological warfare, etc.

Eitherway, I’m not here to defend why anyone may share Elisande’s point of view, I’m here to point out that this is likely a huge portion of why alliance, playable quel’dorei has been a popular discussion, 20 years on.

I’m personally happy with the void elves, but if it means they get developed further and become even more unique visually, then by all means, add high elves as an option and leave void elves to their own unique lore and appearance.