Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race (Part 1)

Be careful what words you use in -any- walk of life I would also add, be careful calling someone ‘Daddy’ when they had a fairly wild youth and it is biologically possible that they could be! :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, that is totally what Blizzard would do, for sure, Give one Facton a new Allied Race, and Weaken another faction (Racials are actually slightly better Alliance side already at this moment, and the Quel’dorei Allied race Racial ability I suggested for them would make them even stronger, as Faction racials go)

OK, fair enough, but there is some supposition there. The first supposition is that Sylvanas gets ‘redeemed’. I pray to everything holy, unholy and in between that this does not happen. It would be an absolute affront to decent story telling. If she becomes Kerrigan 2.0 that would be the weakest outcome imaginable. In fact I would accept a Redemption on one proviso. That it is a Darth Vader type one, one horrible moment at the very end, when they look back at the shadow they have left on the world, and how deep and dark and horrible it all was, a burst of penitence then Dead. Proper Dead.

Even assuming she -does- lead anything, and isn’t a raid boss, the San’layn aren’t really in this expansion at all. We know she was prepared to accept a bunch of them into the Horde, but they all get killed by the Alliance in BfA. Now the Venthyr might seem -similar- to San’layn, but I don’t reckon giving either faction one of the Covenants is a good move. Remember how people whinged about the Nightborne going Horde after aiding them on their Alliance character (Who was actually doing it on behalf of their class order Hall not the Alliance, but hey ho)

It would be that, all over again “Hey, I’m Alliance, I went Revendreth and maxed out my reputation with them, why are they going Horde?”

See the problem? I’m not sure what the solution is, but it would need to be something thematic enough that it makes sense. Ironically BfA would have been a better expansion to introduce Alliance High Elves than SL is, but we’ll see.

Nah, Paladins were not an iconic High Elf thing, Even the most famous of them, Mehlar Dawnblade, who trained under Uther himself is now a Blood Knight (Albeit more the Liadrin type, not the cynical nasty piece of work he was when we first met him)

I think you misunderstand what I mean. If you look up ‘High Elf’ on Wowpedia, where it has canon sources, it gives a better idea. It states that High Elves are a people in name only, the race is in decline, because they simply do not have a high enough population to prosper (No, I am not saying people shouldn’t play them based on numbers, as you will see in a moment) And that’s true. It is not a sustainable population, without risk of incestuous unions between bloodlines.

The Windrunners certainly are not helping matters by expediting this process and both taking Human Husbands.

You then have the fact that High Elves die in war, and they keep turning up to every damned war. Their numbers are going to be vastly decreasing quicker than they can replace them (This applies to Void Elves doubly over, but then that was a stupid idea making them a small squad to start with).

Look at it this way, right. High Elves have been dying in wars with the Horde since they were Exiled, so lets call it TBC (Even though the Highvale Quel’dorei were already fighting the Horde, in the person of the Revantusk Trolls).
So we see them in TBC. Some will have died. We see them in WotLK, Some will have died. We don’t really see them in Cata, maybe they were taking a smoke break, like the Blood Elves were. Pandaria we -definitely- see them, on Isle of Thunder (Still such a great zone, if you like High Elves, play it on Alliance, everyone there is a High Elf bar Jaina!) and Isle of Thunder was pretty damned brutal, as y’know, Civil Wars tend to be. (Horribly true fact, Civil Wars tend to kill more of a nation’s population, than when they war on a foreign nation, proportionally. Certainly this was true for the English Civil War, and American Civil War)

Thats a lot of High Elves falling in battle. WoD they clock off again, not really doing anything, and for once the Blood Elves go out to play without their awkward little siblings tagging along, Legion they rock up following Big brother Blood Elf, but this time for once, they are on the -same- side. Cool. An expansion where Blood Elves and High Elves aren’t actually decreasing each others numbers any more.

Sadly however, there is this whole matter of a Legion army and Elisande Supporters. So like everyone else of the five Elven armies at the Liberation of Suramar, more High Elves would have died.

Then BfA, where a lot of Quel’dorei seem to have joined the Seventh legion, Y’know, those elite grunts who go to the nastiest of battlefields. So I’d be highly surprised if all those High Elves were going to make old bones.

Now, High Elves who were born before the Exile count as part of the 10%. Which makes sense, they are ‘people’ after all. So even the kiddies.

But we also know at what age a High or Blood Elf is considered Adult, which is the same as for humans, we know this because bizarrely of the Windrunners. We know Vereesa and Lirath were too young to formally fight in the Second War, but we equally know that at the age of 20, Sylvanas is a fully trained Farstrider ranger (and thats elite troops).

Because of this, we know how many High Elf pregancies there will have been since the Exile, who are now Adults capable of making up numbers lost to the many battles the High Elves have fought since then.

Precisely Zero. Not one child born since the Exile is old enough to be adult yet. Oh those that were born a few years before the Exile, who would have been about four or five years old at the time of Exile would now be adult, but nothing since. Blizzard do state, that the High Elves are a people in Decline.

However…

This does not make them unplayable. This is why I said it doesn’t matter, and wouldn’t stop people playing them, because given Elven lifespans, it will take thousands of years for the High Elves to go from “In Decline” to “Extinct” Now not only can a lot change in thousands of years, but to be brutally bleak about it, neither you nor I are going to be playing WoW at that time, on the grounds that we, as the players, will be dead. It is Highly Unlikely WoW will still be in existence 50 or 100 years from now, let alone -Thousands- of years from now!

So yeah, High Elves are -going- extinct, but the time it will take for that to -factually- happen, will be longer than the entire existence of the Human Species in our life has been so far.

So it doesn’t matter. It is a fact, but it doesn’t matter.

Why?

No one has ever been able to explain that. Some people play with nameplates invisible. No one has ever been able to explain to me why that is so important?

Just remember these are ideas, they are not canon lore, nor is there any reason to think that will happen.

Well they would, wouldn’t they? I dare say the Romanov’s who survived 1917 wanted Russia to not be Communist, didn’t make it happen did it?

It is written in the same Text as the other Void whispers she receives in that comic, so I think we can pretty much be certain that is Void Whispers. i.e -Not true-.

Well we know that is outright lies anyway. The Windrunners never had a claim to the throne of Silvermoon, that was the Sunstrider dynasty. Traditionally the Windrunners did tend to be Ranger-General, but never Kings or Queens, so we 100% know that is just the Void telling porkies.

Yes, that would be the other Human Kingdoms. Quel’thalas was never a holding of the Grand Alliance, as it was never part of it. It was part of the Alliance of Lordaeron for one war only. Quel’thalas is it’s own sovereign nation, and currently in the hands of it’s rightful ruler. You can’t ‘reclaim’ something that was never ‘yours’, You can only conquer or steal it.

Has that poster never played a Blizzard game, they can, do, and will continue to write things in that never happen.

No it isn’t?

That’s not for sure at all, there is nothing of proof there that suggests this will be so.

Someone making a claim on a third party website, when they have a vested interest in their claim being true, is about as far from ‘certain’ as you can get…

it’s already known that she will save us all…so, sorry to tell you this. :slight_smile:

why it has to be iconic? if blood elves have paladins highelves have them too.

:poop:

some play with visible nameplates. I like them too.

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Happy holidays, highelf fans!

Let’s hope we will get those shiny magical highelves such as silver covenant playable next year! :innocent: :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Ho Ho Ho!

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If anyone is interested in Role-playing a High elf I made a thread a while ago.

It’s very detailed. I worked hard on it

you too!

i think you should repost it again, because it’s locked. Anyway thank you!

highelves as allied race 2021!

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I’d wish blizzard would soon stop hating Alliance.

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That would make me resub for more than the love rocket

Its actually sad that highelves not yet playable for us…

But , Ion said - anything possible in the future

He did i thought that he said this. If you wana be a high elf play a blood elf the horde is waiting for you

Yeah, and then void elves…joined alliance ;D

he also said Blue eyes on Blood elf makes no sense. Dont take his word on any lore or custimization comments. he is more a gameplay/PVE kinda guy.

Then why does he remain in charge then? :open_mouth:

now now lets not be hasty. Ion is a good dev. he simply makes a few mistakes in regards to custimization/lore and thats normal.

when it comes to Gameplay and PVE he is really good

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A few? One he’s ruined the reunion of the stormrages brothers in legion and he ruined a great chance for high elves in bfa and i swear to god if he ruins the jaina and arthas reunion in shadowlands that’ll be the final straw for me. Then i’ll find a better game to use my money on.

Kael’thas in chains and on a leash and later in a nice little corner…
Best. Covenant. Eveeeeeeer!!!
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I dont mind if he wants to join Silver covenant highelves ranks

Is there any evidence there is going to be one? Why would there be? Why ruin a good story by digging it up and trying to resuscitate the, aheh, corpse? Arthas’ story should remain over. To bring him back now would be to utterly destroy the whole narrative of his downfall. The same is true of Kael’thas and Garrosh.

Leave them Dead.

Or else Death really -has- no meaning in the game anymore…

There isn’t a hinted re-union between Jaina and Arthas that I have seen?

That…isn’t really likely now is it? Remember Vereesa is a -very- young Elf, it is highly unlikely he would take her seriously, especially as she never actually earned her position.

However equally hopefully Kael’thas just stays dead. Where he belongs. Where all the Dead in Shadowlands belong…

maybe before death yes, but after redemption…i think he is different

they do not belong here, Sylvanas will save us all

Do we know his storyline in SL yet, and whether he even -gets- Redemption? (Good Night Fae boy me, I ain’t got a Revendreth Covenanter -yet-.

If they pull a Kerrigan 2.0 with Sylvanas she will certainly be saving me something.
£9.99 a month in sub money, as that would be the most garbage thing ever. Genuinely would quit over it, and I’ve never quit this game over anything since it game out. If they Kerrigan her however, that is it.

After you defeat Sun king in raid , his NPC appeared for players in Sinfall