Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race (Part 1)

Literally the first statement before it launches into the actual game related info is that it is a copy from an older source that did not survive the overhaul of Blizzard’s website.

It also states the Troll version of events, and then the Night Elf version of events. If however you wish to check ‘Night Elf’ on Wowpedia, it states the lore version of events, with current canon sources including the Warcraft Chronicles.
Always go with Wowpedia, because unlike a Wiki, it cannot be altered by just anyone, and always provides links to the lore source.

Seriously, type in Night Elf and scoot down to the bit where it details the origins of the race. They were Dark Trolls who moved to the Well of Eternity and became Kaldorei. That is current lore fact.

Fact: Definition; “A thing that is known or proved to be true”

You can’t have a False Fact. Not unless you want to twist the definition of the word Fact, to mean something else, in which case it no longer is a Fact by definition. I know Trumpism coined lots of phrases like ‘False Facts’ and ‘Fake News’, but then Trump is an intellectual pygmy who is not very good with words. He used the word ‘bigly’ (Which is actually a real word!) without realising that he had just called himself ‘swollen and blustering’, and we also still don’t know what on earth ‘Covfefe’ means in his head, but he stands by the word.

Never use phrases like ‘False Facts’. It is a Trumpism and not a correct phrase.

Besides, when I state something, I make a point of saying “Now this is just a hypothesis” if it is my opinion. That is because I can separate my subjective opinion, from objective fact.

So I can’t answer ‘Why?’
As I never do.

But yeah, look up ‘Night Elf’ on Wowpedia and the sources, you might find out some interesting things about the race of your posting Avatar.

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Yes, but it doesn’t state as you said:

The whole point of the chronicles are titan point of view. It;s how they think things happened.

Blizzard can keep the lore book malleable in case they want retcon something else later.

So that compedium was first original source of night elf origins. Later it was changed, but it does not mean that titans are “right”.

you always tend you say or rephrase something in the way you like and state it as a fact.

For sure we are not descended from trolls.

Are you guys still not satisfied with the amount of elves diversity already here seriously?

Yes. Yes we did. And agreed we do not speak about it…

Yeah, sure lets ignore the fact, NPCs in the game, Trolls and Elves alike treat it as a fact, Kaldorei are mutated Dark Trolls. Not to mention every canon source… :face_vomiting:
Next topic: the sky is purple with green spots.
As I said before, you should seek help, and we should ignore you… but your posts are like splinters under your nail; hard to ignore and you want to scream, irritating for every RPers/Lore guru who cares even a tiny bit.
Would like to ignore your nonsense, really do… but that would mean such insanity runs rempant and eventually quoted and treated as fact.
So like Brigante, I will fight against your “false reality” to my last breath… (Brig just usually faster to response than me and says everything I would. Or anyone would.)

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elves are most played races, need few more and we are done. Highelves and one other yet to come .

dear diary, that’s pathetic and disgusting, to be honest.

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Wtf Moontear, you’re an embarrassment.

Anyway now can we please just have normal belf hairstyles that already exist in game on the same models as velfs already please

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Quite a delusion to think that the Blood Elves ever will leave the horde and turning Quelthalas alliance.

You got your fairskinned Voidies, be happy with it.

Quite a delusion to think that’s what we’re asking for.

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So you agree with the basic point that new lore supercedes old lore then?

So I am correct, especially as the Troll Compendiums were only the Trolls and the Night Elves points of view upon it, which were hastily updated with the current lore version before Chronicles even came out…So before the Titan version of events…

By that do you mean that I use the English language as intended whilst remaining factually accurate?

You cannot say that as fact. That is an opinion that -was- held by the Night Elves. You do not know it for fact. Mainly because it is not a fact.

All extant lore disagrees with your statement. Sorry, that is just how it is.

So once Void Elves look identical to High Elves, you then want High Elves as a separate race on top as well?

If you do so, then in order to not be incredibly dishonest, you must then make a thread saying “Anyone on Alliance who is annoyed the Horde got a new race, and we got identical Elves to what we have, Come here and blame us!, it was us, not the Horde”

What is this “One other yet to come” anyway? Do you have another type of Elf on your list of unreasonable demands?"

You…keep using that prefix…I don’t think that works how you think it does. An entry going “Dear Diary, that’s pathetic and disgusting, to be honest” is a comment about yourself, in your diary, because that is how diaries work?

So at the risk of opening a whole can of worms, what was it in your diary that you felt to comment upon yourself doing as ‘Pathetic and disgusting’ or is that a secret you should probably have kept to yourself?

You can also support this on ‘‘Please give Updates to Allied Races for 9.1’’ and ‘‘Void Elf Light hair colours’’ threads :slight_smile: we almost have our High elves at grasp, just hairstyles and hair colours left and we are golden, and Telogrus or Allerian Stronghold should be transformed into a city for void elves and NPC High elves

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have you seen cosmic map?

Titans were proven wrong many times. It’s their point of view.

no it was just text to explain origins of night elves not their opinion.

Yes

Wood elves/winter elves/ vampire elves/ list can go on and on

who knows? Maybe when we hit 2050, there will be no horde anymore JUST ELVES

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Utter madness.

To think the last High Elves thread had some useful things going on, and the US threads have some ideas, and we get …

This…

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Yeah because most likely we get playable highelves, even you dont like this idea

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Night elves evolved from trolls. You don’t even know what an elf is!!! How can you expect us to take you seriously? Please look up the Dunning–Kruger effect.

That’s not what we’re asking for. High elves are already a part of the Alliance.

I think it’s because we’re self harming enough to actually answer Moontear, rather than just ignoring her. If we were to simply have this discussion without her, I think we could be a lot more constructive.

according to titans they did. Check which place titans take in cosmic map and then talk.

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Hmm, I still think that judging a story based on the fact that the characters in question were both male is still sexist of me and I should do better and not be as quick to judge.

Especially now with the full story that has been presented - if you read my initial comments, it was along the lines of “Men aren’t capable of wielding the powers of Elune like women can.” That was quite sexist of me.

Dear, I have nothing against you, but do you not think it would be a better idea to shift our focus to the Void elves now, since we have same models and skins as High elves?

I think we should invest our energy into getting some high elf looks for our hair (white, blonde, black) without creating so much controvercy.

It will not help if you just keep angering the Horde. We need to reach an agreement and make sensible and viable demands. We can have a white and a blonde hair colour that does not look the same as the one Belfs have. The white could be similar to the Draenei white hair, and the blonde could resemble a Kul’tiran blonde maybe, or even a voidy blonde with two dark blue shiny highlights on it to make it unique to Velfs.

We could advocate for a glorious Void elf city, like Telogrus being expanded and built into a questing zone with its own Void elf capital, or Allerian Stronghold being used instead.

And the Night elves can rebuild their old glory from the start again by building a brand new city (maybe in Hyjal or Darkshore, doesn’t really matter) since their world tree was burned. They are proud beings after all.

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Just an altered blonde ponytail with non void styles is all that I need.

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I’ve updated the Icon of the Phoenix. Brand new vines, leaves and roses, and I’ve added a rune at the bottom of the phoenix’ tail. Who can recognize where it’s from?

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if i wanted to play void elf i would roll one? I have them, just dont like as i would highelves.

looks like satanic doll imprinted in blue circles?