Yet the purge of Dalaran happened.
I can post a video of it to refresh your memory. I was playing alliance back then. Tell me, do you feel like an alliance “hero” during that quest? Its quite literally ethnic cleansing based on mere doubt that a singular blood elf might be involved. Even if the doubt is true, we kill innocent bystanders and shopkeepers. Heck Jaina enters the room and MURDERS 2 blood elves in cold blood before even making the accusation.
Rommath is a known traitor? 
oooh wait, you’re Sanara, the name of your Draenei Shaman on which you used to troll and belittle other players because they played Horde…
Definitly the same MO in posting -
Horde side is a lot worse in that regard. A lot of unironic red and white armbands, you know?
I’m convinced.
So the Blood Elves joined the Horde because of something that only happened nearly a decade later, because of something that they did after they joined the Horde?
Is Lor’themar a time travelling idiot now?
No, but when he joined Horde, the alliance ignored blood elves and the night elves (officially part of alliance) tried to sabotage them. At the same time, a hero that died for her country, Sylvanas, was offering a helping hand. Joining the horde was definitely a desperate attempt, but it has worked well for Quel’Thalas. Joined because of desperation, stayed because of company.
You do realize the high elves left the alliance AS HIGH ELVES, and never joined in official capacity right? And during the time that they were in, no human was ever allowed into the inner kingdom. High Elves did not trust humans, it was a contract of mutual defense against an entire army. However their relation with horde has been much more organic. The Orcs understood what blood elves were going though with fel corruption like no other, the forsaken shared hatred for the scourge, the Tauren, well go along with everyone and trolls, while dubious at first, proved their friendship when they were the first race to response against Amani threat.
Alleria isn’t a random nobody, she’s very famous among her people. A renowned military commander.
Sure, Lor’themar has lead them for years now, but it’s not like she would be dismissed out of turn just because she’s been away.
It’s not like she chose to not return until now.
Few Blood Elves who have lived in Silvermoon up until now would suddenly decide to join the Alliance. That’s true.
But among the High Elves it’s plausible there are several who would rather join the Alliance instead of going to the Horde. Because if they wanted to join the Horde they could have done so at any time, Lor’themar wanted them to return to the fold after all, as he wants to unify his people more than anything.
I imagine the majority of the Blood Elven population don’t care much either way. They are just civilians going about their lives, and will just try to live their lives in peace.
Same as with many countries in our world where there is unrest over who will lead. Many will have an opinion, but most just want their lives to be comfortable and peaceful.
That doesn’t make any sense.
The Void Elves weren’t Alliance supporters in the first place.
They were just Blood Elves who wanted to study the Void because they found it foolish to not do so. Because it was an untapped source of power, and they saw it as “misguided” that their research was illegal.
The only reason they joined the Alliance is because Alleria saved them and they follow her, and she happens to be in the Alliance camp.
They probably wouldn’t even be allowed to join the Alliance if Alleria wasn’t vouching for them.
I mean Umbric says he never had any loyalties for the horde, and only Silvermoon itself. That is not exactly a typical horde blood elf.
Such a bizarre, hilariously lazy piece of writing when you actually do the quest.
“You’ve saved us! We’re joining the Alliance!”
Like did anybody even ask them to? I can’t remember if Alleria even suggests it before Umbric declares they’re going blue in more ways than one.
I think the typical Blood Elf has loyalties to Silvermoon before the Horde.
Just like the typical Human has loyalties to Stormwind before the Alliance.
Well, I don’t mind to be honest. I like the Void Elves.
But yes, it feels rushed and hastily written… There’s barely any discussion on the topic.
He doesn’t even ask any of his comrades what they might feel on the subject.
For all he knows there might be someone in his entourage that has lost family members to the Alliance.
Right, but I am pretty sure Umbric implies he had none for the horde, which is what I am point out to be atypical.
It might be true, or he might be lying just to make himself look better…
“I never liked them in the first place! I swear!”
But personally I think that’s true for most Blood Elves (the civilian ones)… They don’t care about the Horde or the Alliance. They just want their people to prosper and their lives to be peaceful.
Just like most people in our world, most ordinary people just want to live their lives in peace and plenty.
And she is given her due respect, I have noticed yes.
Also… it seems there is a wrong understanding that the High Elves as a majority were staunch supporters of the Alliance in the first place.
They were not… Alleria and her lot, were a vast… vast minority in High Elven society.
And imagine not being too happy about the Alliance in the first place, and then everything else that has happened for years.
So you sought the power of shadow?
My followers and I felt no loyalty to the Horde. When Grand Magister Rommath forbade our Void research, we did not hesitate to break away and follow our own path.
But hubris got the best of me. I was certain I could master any force we encountered.
I was so wrong…
Now you fight for the Alliance.
We do not stand with the Alliance out of convenience. Nor is it a mere gesture of thanks to Alleria.
Our ordeal has taught us the importance of great powers being in the right hands. We could not allow the Horde to know the things we know, or to use us as a weapon in their schemes.
We fight for the Alliance because we believe in its values. And one day, I pray we will bring all of Silvermoon back into the fold.
They certainly were not supporters of the Horde.
Absolutely. I thought Void Elves were a bad idea, and I still think High Elves and Ogres would’ve made more sense for an expansion that tries to evoke a lot of WarCraft 2 nostalgia, but I think they’re okay.
The rushed writing is honestly true for all the Allied Races except Dark Irons. Even Lightforged Draenei and Highmountain Tauren, sure they get along with their counterparts in the Alliance/Horde, but were they ever given a real -reason- to join? Especially since this was pre-war.
The Horde Pandaren are the funniest though. Aysha happily declares “I will join the Alliance!” and Ji just goes “Oh. Uh. I guess I’m Horde then.” then when you arrive in Orgrimmar he realizes he’s made a huge mistake because Garrosh was written as a complete bloodthirsty psychopath in MoP, but he just goes with it not to make a fuss.
Poor Ji.
He deserved it for not joining Alliance.
Crusading Memes intensify
Nooo Ji is goodboy.
I don’t know if it’s scripted or just happened by accident, but during the quest where Sylvanas kills Zellig and arrests Baine and every other Horde leader just stands around , right at the height of the action I was treated to an excellent shot of Sylvanas pointing her bow at Baine… while Ji was standing behind her looking awkwardly off to the side and scratching his belly, dissociating entirely from the conflict. Big mood.
Honestly though, the Pandaren joining the Horde or Alliance was very artificial. Aysa’s decision to join the Alliance wasn’t exactly much more than “I like them more and Master said I had to choose one.” Not exactly a great foundation for a long-term commitment to a nation at war.
I never said they were…
Alleria and her followers are those who refused King Anasterian’s orders to return to Silvermoon. They argued that they needed the Alliance just as much as the Alliance needed them. That the people of Quel’Thalas couldn’t stand on their own etc etc…
But while there are few among the Blood Elves who would go “For the Alliance!” there could be some among the High Elves, who have been affiliated with the Alliance for quite some time now.
As these are the ones that supported closer ties with the humans in the first place.
The ones who were xenophobic most likely stayed in Quel’Thalas.
And if a Blood Elf were to leave her homeland now and join the Alliance through the Void Elves, I imagine it would be more out of a curiosity to study the Void than a loyalty to the Alliance, but that’s just me.
Didn’t say they were… Said they weren’t Alliance supporters.
I think that if they were allowed to study in Quel’Thalas, they would most likely have stayed there, and by extension remained in the Horde.
And though Umbric might paint himself and his followers as “Alliance loyalists” now, I think it’s more likely that’s just how they need to act now, because people are naturally skeptical of them. For studying a very controversial source of power and because they were in the Horde.
And it very much seems like they are allies out of convenience rather than any true sense of loyalty. Because if it was the latter, they could have taken their knowledge and research and gone to the Alliance directly. But they didn’t.
So for them to be so adamant in pointing out they were never loyal to the Horde in the first place seems “natural” in a way.
I’ve said it before; Blood Elves are the Italians of WarCraft.
Seems like Umbric describes it otherwise.
That everything the Void Elves went through taught them a whole lot.
They did not join the Alliance out of convenience or as a gesture of thanks, as he says it, but because he never trusted the Horde and would not trust the Horde with the new powers he and the other void elves got.
And of course, he butters it up further by explaining how the void elves believes in all the Alliance values, blah blah blah.
There is definitely an Alliance support there… always have been.
You mean they love pasta and great kisser and passionate lovers?
Well they indeed have some ancient ruins to show off…
Meh… maybe you are right
Numero Uno: They’re an ancient race who used to be one of the most civilized and powerful empires in the world but declined after a drastic catastrophe, after which they survived in a lessened state for thousands of years around their new capital in the east before that too fell to a powerful invader and now they exist only as a minor power reliving lost glories.
Numero Due: As a people they are famous for their beautiful women, handsome men, excellent fashion and wine-making skills.
Numero Tre: Militarily they are excellent at sea and in the air, but they’re unreliable allies and will betray you at the drop of a hat.
I stand by this analysis.