I suppose you’re right. Garithos and his men got a lot closer to achieving that goal than the Orcish Horde ever did though.
Would have saved us a lot of trouble if they did. 
Imagine peddling the myth of Horde bias when the devs straight up gave y’all a carbon copy of our most popular race.
May as well sign up to the Flat Earth Society at this point.
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False, since they never had history with Thrall, the Tauren, The Darkspear.
They have history with Sylvanas Windrunner, wich is in favor of the Horde, and the Blood Elves joining them over the Alliance, especially with the involvement of Dwarves and Night Elves in the starter zones. And it was Sylvanas Windrunner and the Forsaken that came to help them - but why do I need yo tell you all this? You should know all of this by now.
The reasons people go " yeah, but Blizz just gave Horde a pretty race", shows that those people don’t actually give two hoots about WC’s storylines or lore, unless it suits them.
Weren’t you telling me how wrong I was, based on one paragraph from an ingame book, wich was a retcon?
You don’t get to pick and choose, The Blood Elves would never have made sense going back to the Alliance, while it does make sense for them to be in the Horde.
And yes, I played wc1, wc2 and wc3 and I favored the Alliance then, mostly.
I can only give you that without needed retcons to make it so, only a small group of High Elves should still be in the Alliance, those mostly being Alleria’s rangers, and even they were nonsensical in TBC.
The last time I showed you some clips and pictures you simply vanished into a silence state. Are you going to repeat this behavior again or do you start actually accepting that the Alliance needs help if you want to continue the faction war?
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This has to do with chronology of events, If the Draenei starting experience comes first in the time period of either race joining their faction, it suddenly makes allot more sense.
I don’t recall seeing any pictures or clips?
And I don’t want to continue the Faction war because the devs always butcher the Horde in those stories. The Alliance can wither and die for all I care but please leave the red team out of it.
The Blood Elves (Formally High Elves), did have an history with the Horde, since the Orcs joined up with Quel’thalas worst enemy, the Amani Trolls.
Now, that was the old Horde. Are people going to save that the old Alliance has a lot of relevance to todays Alliance?
Because of what one racist human did? So, you’re gonna tell me that lore is the real reason to why the Blood Elves joined the Horde, which even doesn’t make any sense to begin with in the first place.
Highvale Elves, the Silver Covenant. They are still with the Alliance. There is possibly more groups out there.
Alleria is now a Void Elf, and she leads with Magister Umbric over the Void Elves, which once again, is a small group, or in Ion’s words: Elite-Crack Squad.
Now, I don’t know what these customisations for Void Elves are going to bring in, because still need the lore to push forward assuming that is Blizzards plan with the Void Elves.
Otherwise, Blizzard should’ve listened to the Alliance and given them the High Elves that have been within the Alliance since the start.
That’s okay, because I wanted to post some of them for Sarallesta anyway for the linked topic above if he/she ever wants to use it there. These people there are just throwing accusations around without linking anything.
https://i.imgur.com/6I4RWCu.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGsNsSX-iO0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTHRrrN0E4
Including to the Horde concert, even an official apology for the spitting/harassing of Alliance-players from the former CEO. I left the horse-bias out of it from BfA or WM/warfront/Korrak-related stuff because these are still fresh in the mind of everyone.
https://starcraft.blizzplanet.com/blog/comments/blizzcon-2011-blizzard-ceo-mike-morhaime-public-apology
They even try to reduce the amount of the genocide story because we can’t simply have “red team bad” because that’s where the majority of players are.
https://i.imgur.com/Zaxko20.png
The “red team” is also my team where most of my alts are. It’s time that the Alliance gets pushed back into the present - and the Helves are a good start to correct some mistakes they have done in the past.
Luckily though they are working on cross-faction play because of their mismanagement of the faction system in general in the past years. Things could have been so much better but I guess we can’t have a nice time, even on the forums.
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You seem to really pick and choose what you read and reply to.
I gave more reasons than Garithos, you chose to ignore them, that’s on you.
It also means you’re very transparant.
The Elves had history with the old Horde, Thrall and his generation were babies at the time, they Never attacked the Elves or allied with the Amani.
The rest of the Horde never even met the High Elves, aside from Sylvanas and the Forsaken.
And yes, Garithos was the highest ranking Alliance officer alive at the time, seeing as Lordaeron’s survivors are in the Alliance, people from Dalaran are in the Alliance, Gilneas is in the Alliance, Gnomeregan is in the Alliance, Khaz Modan is in the Alliance, the Wildhammer are in the Alliance, the leftovers from Stromgarde is in the Alliance, Kul’tiras is in the Alliance…and Stormwind(WC1) is in the Alliance and heading it…yes, it looks like it is the Alliance, with some extra additions.
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You also named the Silver covenant? The anti Blood Elf plotdevice, you do know that before WoTLK and that first Knaak book, there was No mention of either Vereesa Windrunner or The Silver covenant, right?
Sure, but Garithos didn’t imprison every Blood Elf in existence. He imprisoned Kael’thas and his military forces. Because I doubt a city would have big enough dungeons to imprison 10% of a nation’s whole population.
Lots of civilians remained in the ruins of Quel’Thalas and whatever guards remained in order to protect them.
So what Garithos was bad, and he was a racist piece of crap. But what he did wasn’t “attempted genocide”.
Though one can argue that if Garithos succeeded in executing Kael’Thas and all his followers, then the remaining elves would have died out and/or become wretched due to their mana addiction.
As then Kael’Thas wouldn’t have been able to reach Outland and no one would have been sent back to the Blood Elves in order to teach them how to suck mana out of living things.
So an “unintentional genocide” perhaps, or “genocide by proxy” but not an outright genocide.
Though with how much Garithos hated the elves, I’m sure he wouldn’t mind it if the elves died out due to him executing Kael’Thas and his followers. Even if that wasn’t his intent.
Indeed, these “Forum Wars” wouldn’t even be a thing…
Though I’m sure the forums would still be a place of arguing and verbal fighting.
That’s true to an extent I suppose.
But still a bit strange that they’d go ballistic in Quel’Thalas.
An accusation against the Blood Elves made by strangers (the Draenei) would have warranted a query or an investigation/espionage. Not outright military invasion and sabotage of civilian structures.
And that remains true even when they could see Blood Elves in Azuremyst. That could be criminals for all they knew.
The Blood Elves (High Elves) were old (if reluctant) allies of the Alliance of Lordaeron, so to think the entire race suddenly became spaceship terrorists is a bit strange.
At least without further proof of direct involvement of the government of Quel’Thalas.
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Is there any evidence for that? There seems to be no evidence for that. In fact there is only evidence for the opposite of that, as Ion said that the races of the Shadowlands are pretty much bound to the Shadowlands.
At the moment my feeling is that they are letting new races lie fallow for a bit (particularly as we don’t actually know how successful the allied race system has been. They may regret it) and that the Shadowlands races are going to remain unplayable, just as nearly every other race we have encountered over the years remains unplayable.
Probably the right call as well.
People have datamined it, they are registered as “playable” or what’s the official term inside the engine. They can apparently equip armors but don’t take my word for it and I don’t know where I can find the source to these datamines on twitter. That’s why you have that many people rallying for fawns on the Horde-side, because they want them as well.
They can become a playable race but nothing is set in stone. There are also placeholder entries for Tuskarr and three other races.
What exactly am I looking at in the first picture?
And Corpsegrinder was never affiliated with Blizzard in any way. I don’t think they even knew beforehand that he was going to pull that stunt.
And they did publicly apologize to the community after that incident.
The rest of it is just outdated Alpha stuff and speculation.
And you chose to also ignore “Old Alliance”. How many times does this have to be told to you.
Wait, did you just try to slander me and lump me up with people that spit on other people in RL because they play another faction? Because as for ‘insulting’, you are allot more offensive then I am.
We all know there is a huge Horde Bias on the NA forums. The Anti’s chose to ignore it over there too.
Except there is no “Old Alliance”, as far as the lore is concerned.
And even if there was, it just means the Blood Elves have no ties of loyalty to it, as they were never part of thise “New Alliance”.
So, then by that logic, there is no “Old Horde” either.
I’ll put this way, neither is really known as the Old Alliance, or the Old Horde. Because the Alliance back then was known as either Alliance kingdom, such as the Alliance or Lordaeron or Alliance of Stormwind, etc. And the it was known as the Horde back then as well. Reason why people call it “Old” is because it was history. Nothing relevant to the modern times with the Horde and Alliance that we have today.
The major difference is that one of those groups sent military assistance to Quel’thalas in their darkest hour and the other sent spies and occupiers.
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Oh they CAN become playable, anything can become playable, though wasn’t the ‘playable’ flag datamined due to them using the same architecture as the allied race questing system? You have to select an allied race to pursue using a UI within the embassy. Similalry you’ll have to choose your Covenant using a UI once you finish the questing experience, and the Covenant UI is the repurposed Allied race UI.
What I am saying though is that CAN become playable in a technical sense does not really impact on how likely they really are. As they are portrayed, they are creatures of the Shadowlands, the souls of the dead in new forms.
There is just something inconsistent but having such beings, from realities completely at odds with out own, join the Alliance and the Horde. In fact, I doubt they can even properly exist outside the Shadowlands.
I think no new allied races this expansion and I also think the next expansion will focus on a new class or specs, as it will probably be time for that.