Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race

yeah thats true, i’d be in favour off class restrictions for certain races like you described. its just about providing the the RP option for people and they have the tools to do it. they could easily restrict certain classes when you select the option

You first old boy, you rather famously have not contributed anything at all to the discussion.

You may wish to correct your statement in order to be factually accurate. They are a core Horde race. Not an Alliance race, they were rather obviously not since the end of the Second War…

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I think people could just add it to their TRP profiles to be fair.

They do it now anyway.
Many people who RP as a Dark Ranger, do so with the Eagletalon Mythic Gear and just put either “Quel/Sin’dorei Dark Ranger.”

It’s too early for the holy helf crusade for now. Let’s wait and see what they else have in store for them before everyone’s losing their minds.

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the only compromise i can accept is a dual racial choice velf/helf holy/shadow with an altar of sorts, same as the zandalari racials.

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Sub-race names & templates tied to the new customization options - #58 by Sindorea-defias-brotherhood here’s what someone come up with in the other thread, could have paladin available to high elf and not for void elf.

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its not confirmed atm its fan art. lets see if blizz will finally do justice for alliance

Danuser already said that wouldn’t happen though.

:rainbow: Just use your imagination guys. :rainbow:

That’s only going to work for something like a Wildhammer Dwarf or a Sand Troll, because they are the same race in every respect to already playable Dwarves and Trolls. Sure, the Trolls of different tribes may have different skin tones, but those tones are normal tones for Trolls.

Unless there is a toggle for entropic embrace, and unless the reverb is removed from the void elf emotes, and unless their emotes are entirely redone to remove continuous references to their void nature, then everything the game does is going to conspire to remind a void elf player that they are in fact playing a void elf.

Hard to use your imagination when entropic embrace is proccing every ninety seconds or so, your character cracks jokes about the old gods and being dark and everything said has a distinctive burr. Even the blood elf skin tones won’t fix that.

Then again, I don’t think Blizzard should update those other aspects. The skin tones are a concession, clearly, but it’s still a Void Elf. I don’t know if blizzard wants to allow void elf players to deny they are void elves. Seems counter-intuitive.

Just a random contribution to the topic: People are also asking for certain options for other races. Not so much “Helf-fanatics only”, huh?

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And I fell for the bait!

Forest Trolls, huh? You mean those big hulky trolls that could actually be a nice Cuban alternative to the regular Jamaican Troll?

The thing is though it kinda falls flat to call it “Troll fanaticism”, since we’re talking about what is essentially a different looking Troll. High Elves are just… Well… Regular Blood Elves, 'cept for them having blue eyes. Now if we were talking about High Elves actually having a different appearance and anatomy to a Blood Elf, people wouldn’t be rolling their eyes so hard at people wanting them.

Now if we were talking about people wanting Forest Trolls, but they looked absolutely identical to the regular Troll except only green skin colors, then you’d have a point.

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I think I need to correct you on this one, because Arthas wiped out 90% of Quel’thalas population. Not 90% of the High Elven population, as there were also High Elves outside the Kingdom of Quel’thalas the day Arthas sacked Quel’thalas. And I am pretty sure Arthas did not travel all over the EK to destroy every kingdom just to kill off as many High Elves as he could find.

And most of the survivors renamed themselves to the Sin’dorei, in honor of there fallen, not all of the survivors.

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Technically, that’s not true, but it was more or less retconned.
There’s a book in game, detailing the events of Arthas’ march through Quel’thalas.
It stated that when the Scourge swept through, not a single soul was left alive in the lands.

Queue, the Frozen Throne, kael’thas returns and rallies the last of his race to fight back for Quel’thalas, That means High Elves from Dalaran, Stormwind(retcon too but w/e) and Theramore among other places.
They renamed themselves Blood Elves in honor and remembrance of their fallen people - Queue another retcon WoW, suddenly there’s still Elves on Azeroth that did not heed the call of their prince, nor did they honor their fallen kin, nor did they put in any effort to salvage what they could out of the ruins of their civilization.
These…are your High Elves then…and That, doing nothing, is their ‘lore’.

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And they didn’t use Fel power

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They wont add a new race just for the lore. You expect to have 2 exactly the same body type races in the same faction? Just for the lore and just with a different eye color?

This book?

You know not every book in game is gonna detail every event that happens in the Warcraft Universe. Now, for best sources, you got to think outside of the game.

Such as the Warcraft Chronicles. The Warcraft Encylopedia (now hosted on WoWPedia website). The World of Warcraft Website (Though just quick information)

But a book in the game isn’t going to give the full detail of the lore to the events of Arthas sacking Quel’thalas.

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Well, it worked well for the playable Gilnean Humans/Worgens so far.

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Nah. They didn’t “do nothing”. They sat in Dalaran and Stormwind around their human masters all too content to feed on mana crystals and artifacts like docile pets all while chastising their kin in Quel’Thalas who fought and died for their ancestral lands for daring to consume critters for sustenance.

If a zombie apocalypse swept over earth and wiped out 90 % of the population and there was a subset of the survivors who refused to compromise their morals and hunt for meat to ensure the continued survival of the group you can be sure that they’d be laughed out of town and rightfully so.

The High Elves we see in WoW are the most repulsive and disgusting individuals to ever walk the face of Azeroth and their shameless hypocrisy would make the Old Gods blush.

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That book, yes. Here is what it entails ;

Sunwell - The Fall of Quel’Thalas

Though he had defeated all of the people he now saw as his enemies, [Arthas] was still haunted by the ghost of [Kel’Thuzad]. The ghost told Arthas that he needed to be revived for the next phase of the [Lich King]‘s plan. To revive him, Arthas needed to bring Kel’Thuzad’s remains to the mystical [Sunwell], hidden within the [high elves]’ eternal kingdom of [Quel’Thalas].

Arthas and his Scourge invaded Quel’Thalas and laid siege to the elves’ crumbling defenses. [Sylvanas Windrunner], the Ranger-General of [Silvermoon], put up a valiant fight, but Arthas eventually eradicated the high elf army and battled through to the Sunwell. In a cruel gesture of his dominance, he even raised Sylvanas’ defeated body as a [banshee], cursed to endless undeath in the service of Quel’Thalas’ conqueror.

Ultimately, Arthas submerged Kel’Thuzad’s remains within the holy waters of the Sunwell. Although the potent waters of Eternity were fouled by this act, Kel’Thuzad was reborn as a sorcerous [lich]. Resurrected as a far more powerful being, Kel’Thuzad explained the next phase of the Lich King’s plan.

By the time Arthas and his army of the dead turned southward, not one living elf remained in Quel’Thalas. The glorious homeland of the high elves, which had stood for more than nine thousand years, was no more.

Then TBC comes and suddenly there is plenty of them. Enough to fill 2 zones in EK and 1 in Outland, 3 dungeons and 2 raids. :v:

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